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Rockets?

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Tyrana Creed
General Arms Manufacturing
RAZOR Alliance
#1 - 2014-09-14 18:56:39 UTC
Hi, are rockets considered a guided missile?

Do they need the skills to support them?

Thanks.
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Livonia Velorea
The Fiendish Pixies
#2 - 2014-09-14 19:11:49 UTC
Rockets are missiles yeah, they benefit from all the same supporting skills.

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Hoshi
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Brave Collective
#3 - 2014-09-14 19:44:39 UTC
No rockets are not guided missiles so the skill Guided Missile Precision does not effect them (I assume that's why you ask). All other missile support skills do effect them.

The non guided missiles are Rocket, Heavy Assault Missile, Torpedo, Citadel Torpedo.

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Obunagawe
#4 - 2014-09-14 19:48:43 UTC
Hoshi wrote:
No rockets are not guided missiles so the skill Guided Missile Precision does not effect them (I assume that's why you ask). All other missile support skills do effect them.

The non guided missiles are Rocket, Heavy Assault Missile, Torpedo, Citadel Torpedo.


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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#5 - 2014-09-14 20:00:45 UTC
Hoshi wrote:
No rockets are not guided missiles so the skill Guided Missile Precision does not effect them (I assume that's why you ask). All other missile support skills do effect them.

The non guided missiles are Rocket, Heavy Assault Missile, Torpedo, Citadel Torpedo.

This was changed. The skill "Guided Missile Precision" affects all missiles now.

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J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#6 - 2014-09-14 20:11:18 UTC
Hoshi wrote:
No rockets are not guided missiles so the skill Guided Missile Precision does not effect them (I assume that's why you ask). All other missile support skills do effect them.

The non guided missiles are Rocket, Heavy Assault Missile, Torpedo, Citadel Torpedo.



This is as correct as DD are AoE weapons.

Aka ancient and outdated info.

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Brave Collective
#7 - 2014-09-14 23:30:54 UTC
Sorry I am an ancient and outdated person.

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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#8 - 2014-09-14 23:37:42 UTC
At present all missile support skills affect Rockets as well.

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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#9 - 2014-09-15 05:55:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Tau Cabalander
All missile support skills apply equally to all missiles:
* Missile Launcher Operation
* Missile Bombardment
* Missile Projection
* Guided Missile Precision
* Rapid Launch
* Warhead Upgrades
Note that none of these skills apply to bombs, as they are not missiles.

Rockets, and all short-range missiles, are still considered "unguided". Hence they tend to be less precise, with a larger explosion radius than "guided" missiles, and a shorter range (less sophisticated guidance systems).

However, like all short-range weapons, they do more damage than long range "guided" missiles (more sophisticated guidance system, and more fuel, means less room for the warhead).

Once upon-a-time, "unguided" missiles were treated differently than "guided" missiles, but CCP has simplified things (for both players and in the software code) by making everything apply to all missiles equally. Notable past exceptions, were explosion radius "rigor" rigs and the Guided Missile Precision skill (see above, CCP didn't want a counter to the explosion radius). The skill name should probably have been changed.

CCP hates exceptions in code, as that tends to make for messy and potentially buggy code.

Example: Recently, drones underwent a similar overhaul to remove exceptions, so that drones are now all affected equally by drone support skills.

Be aware that most of the info you find outside the game is likely outdated!

Patch notes for EVE Online: Retribution 1.0, Released on Tuesday, December 4, 2012 wrote:
Skills
* The Guided Precision skill has been changed to affect all missiles.

Though not mentioned in the patch notes, rigor rigs were also changed to apply to all missiles.