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I'm pretty disappointed with CCP.

This, once again, shows, how much up for interpretation your EULA is. Just like banning Erotica 1, Mahm (SOMER dude) or wheniminspace, this was a ban on something that CCP never even cared about before and suddenly strikes down with something that should be a last resort. One could even argue that due to the delayed bans (the Erotica thing happened quite a while ago) the people that got banned right now are entitled to a partial refund (because EVE is a game where it's possible to not play a character for months waiting for a skill). I don't have a problem with all of these activities being bannable, but next time you don't give a **** for 3 years before bamhammering clarify that this specific activity will get you banned from now on or even warn those people. SOMER RMT was accepted for more than a year, then shut down, then SOMER got an non-authorative OK and got pissed when CCP turns right on them. While I don't endorse Blink RMT I'd also be furious at CCP if they did it to me (in whatever context, shooting MTUs, bonus room etc.)

tl;dr stop being so ******* inconsistent banning people for things that were okay for years.

for fucks sake

Yeah, I'm totally going to fall in to the trap of posting everything on the eve forums & getting banned for it. Sound thinking NPC forum troll.
E: I mean it's not like you can't find cases of people being banned for random crap when they haven't played the game for 7 years on these very forums or anything.

Are you really trying to use that as justification for people suddenly getting banned for stuff that has been ok for the last 11 years? At this point it sounds like all I have to do to get rid of someone is have a bunch of people send in petitions that say they were harassed.

Would love to stay and continue beating this horse. Unfortunately I have a job. Have fun losing the argument.

So, I had a little while to think about this, since they banned this forum at my work firewall, to much tears since half my platoon plays EVE Online.

And you know what this boils down to, for me?

I have zero confidence in the GM staff. None. The "You can impersonate yourself" accidentally revealed that they have no gameplan and no genuine guidelines, they each just do whatever they feel like and they only backpedal on things that are utterly nonsensical if they are publicly caught.

And with the reaffirmation that they are given so much leeway on any number of completely subjective decisions? Well, that tells me that the result of a petition is 100% a coin toss depending on which GM answers it. There appears to be no accountability to mitigate that, either.

And combined with their nearly legendary pro carebear bias, that I and several others have tasted firsthand, I have no confidence in them whatsoever anymore.

If someone can dox me, threaten my life, and do it through the game client and not get banned, while many others are being perma banned for what amounts to "accessory to scamming too hard"...

bye

No one will be able to give you proof - and if they can it would be better taken up with CCP directly. But that isn't the issue. The problem is than many people posting here perceive that CCP is being inconsistent and disproportionate with some bans. Perhaps you're right, and every ban that CCP has ever made is correct and appropriate, but from the perspective of some of the player base left with little information and apparently unpredictable behaviour from CCP, that appears not to be the case. And, of course, the danger is that it may happen to you by mistake, even if you do your best to play 100% within the rules and then you will be left wondering why - and that idea doesn't make the game seem very fun. In short, some people no longer fully trust CCP to be accurately and appropriately sanctioning bad behaviour because of past, and present, inconsistencies in the way they handle account actions.

At the very least CCP needs a strategy to better communicate to the players that bans are being dispensed fairly, and that they are consistently enforcing their policies. If the rules aren't being enforced consistently, then they need to "up their game" there too and invest in some more GMs and standardize how rule enforcement is done.

Rules can change, and no one has a problem with CCP implementing or changing any rule they wish, but it has to be done transparently as just making things up as you go along is a recipe for sowing uncertainty and resentment in the player base.

I'll trust the word of a GM more than someone who got banned and goes "nono, i did nothing at all, I wasn't even there".

I only trust the word of Mr Epeen. And to be honest, I don't really trust even that most of the time.

Mr Epeen

When a Senior GM comes out & says that you will be banned for telling people that your alt is you, trust flies straight out the window.