EVE General Discussion

Thanks to Dave Stark and Mallak Azaria for the links.

After reading the link they have kindly provided I can not see how this is not a exploit so long as my understanding is correct and that the Titans were completely in the PoS shields.


As such not only should those who have lost Titans be reimburse (as much as I like seeing Titans die) but all those involved should receive at the very least an official warning if not a ban since they knew what exactly they were doing.

CCP really need to get their **** sorted but I suspect that this thread will soon be locked as all the others have


However my point still stands that the only way CCP will ever do anything is if the mechanic is abused on a large scale so with that you guys need to go on a kill a load of Titans sitting in PoS's and when people cry just point them to their own kills and tell them to HTFU

While it's true that CCP only ever do things when they absolutely have to, they shouldn't post so-called "exploit notifications" if they don't intend to follow up on them. They especially shouldn't write things like "fully visible in server logs" or "will result in appropriate action taken" if this isn't actually logged or if the appropriate action is "do nothing".

magic 8 ball says "outlook not so good".

Guys we all know there are many things CCP should and shouldn't do however CCP have a long history of not acting until somebody abuses a mechanic on a large scale.

We also know that when it comes to things like this all posting usually results in is a lot of threads being locked.

As I said, I completely agree its bullshit, hwever if you guys were to go a Titan killing spree then its a win win scenario.

If CCP do not relent then lots of dead enemy titans = Win

If CCP do relent you get your Titans reimburse and force CCP to acknowledge their own rules = Win

Yet apparently it is not an exploit otherwise the first Titan would of been reimburse, those using the exploit would of been banned and the 2 other Titans would not of died.

That's the most nonsensical “think of the children” I've ever heard.
Exploits hurt everyone. If you think otherwise, you haven't actually made any thinking at all.

Oh, and exploits do not automatically lead to reimbursements (or bans), so that's not really any evidence in either direction.

how so

a titan can bridge while fully inside a passworded POS without the fleet it's bridging having to know the password or have access to the forcefield

This kind of exploit doesn't hurt everyone because who is going to drop 15 titans to bump out a NC. or CFC or PL titan? If CFC did it to NC. or the other way around it would start another 24h long supercap fight and seems like neither side is ready for that. Smaller groups don't have 15 titans to risk dropping in to a hostile staging system, especially those of the 3 biggest groups. But if you are PL, NC. or CFC you hold total supremacy in everything around your own staging system so any smaller group will have their bridging titans killed.

If there are no bans or reimbursements from using an exploit then CCP must come forward and make a statement that it is in exploit. This is the whole point of this thread, CCP must comment on this now because if they don't they pretty much think it's a totally legit tactic and players are free to do it.

I have some trouble understanding this so would you clarify. Are you saying that using exploits is fine until CCP has individually contacted everyone who has used said exploit and told them to stop doing it?

Of course it's CCP's job to inform the playerbase if the players are doing something that is not allowed or is otherwise against the rules. Why do you think exploit notifications exist if not for exactly that reason?

It doesn't get any clearer than what I already wrote.

Try reading what I actually wrote.

No, it is not. In fact, their own rules pretty much prohibits them from discussing the outcome of an investigation.

They can occasionally give players a courtesy warning that they will consider some tactics as exploits, but that is something completely separate from explaining why there were or weren't any bans or reimbursements after any given case.