EVE General Discussion

Why do so many people insist that CCP explain themselves? There seems to be some broad assumption that it's all
bonus room related. There is the possibility this is the result of a long time investigation. Perhaps CCP has been
observing these players behaviours and actions of a period of time and made a decision based on evidence they
gathered. At any rate if the community insists on evidence/explanations/clarifications then CCP would have to
jeapordize any active investigations by giving specific details. Some of the same people making real life
comparisons have repeatedly in the past stated real life comparisons are irrelevant. Why the change of heart? It
truly is none of our business why certain individuals got banned. It's almost as if common sense suddenly became a
commodity and some people are trying to trade in counterfeit stock.

grr busy asteroid belts.

You have proof that these random players have done absolutely nothing to get themselves banned? Is their word so trustworthy you would allow them access to your account to play on with no worries? In my experience as a former game admin and forum admin, people you come to trust will most certainly dissappoint you when you least expect it.

No because account sharing is a bannable offense. It's got nothing to do with trust.

and this is exactly why we need more clarity than "use your brain" and "look up the definition of harrassment".

Most would be concerned if any of that was actually happening. The thing is, that CCP isn't going after scammers, gankers, bumpers or general evildoers of the EVE universe. Your group of "random" people, that CCP is investigating, seem to all be a part of a very well know group linked to out-of-game bullying. Maybe some of them will be found not to be involved after the investigation, but there is nothing odd or random for them to be under investigation. There was rule breaking activity going on where they spent their time. Saying they were just there for no reason after CCP busted the gathering place isn't a reason to ignore them in their investigation. Not investigating their part in the activities on the other hand would be unacceptable. As I said, if they did not take part in our-of-game bullying they have nothing to fear. The fact they're are scrambling in panic seems to indicate at least some of them will not be seen in-game ever again for a good reason and EVE will be better for it.

One more thing.

I stole a mission runner's loot yesterday and tried to ransom it to him. He decided to shoot me instead, and paid dearly with the loss of his pod and 169mil Raven. He'd only just come back to the game and... well.... here, read for yourself. The gap between lines 16 and 17 is where most of the fighting took place.

After that chat, I got a PM from him. I expected tears, as per the usual in this game. I was wrong. I love being wrong. There's nothing I love more in this game than being wrong about my expectations of its players.

He wanted me to teach him how to do that. His exact words were, "Brah, you ****** me good. You gotta show my how to do that." He's now being looked after by myself and the very large community of 'griefer' friends I have developed over the past two years.

I don't do what I do for the purposes of driving people from the game, it just happens because they didn't belong here in the first place. The ones that understand or come to understand the nature of the game, like Degas, are true diamonds in a sea of hilarious qq'ing tears. Oh no, I don't do it for the tears, either, they're just a bonus.

I do it because I enjoy fighting in this spaceship fighting game. Sure, it's not entirely about spaceships fighting, but, the way I play it is, and because it can be played that way, that's the way I'm going to play it.

I'm also learning to metagame with some degree of competence and finding it to be exceptionally fun, but the straight up PVP combat aspect of it, that's why I'm here.

I am always just as prepared, though, to accept a new player to the ranks of my inner circle and help people that want it as I am for someone to QQ cuz they're a pansy. I have no sympathy for the pansies, and I have no responsibility for them either, they should know what they're getting themselves into.

lol

Awww... did teh paw wittle qwote miner miss the part where I got a fight out of it?? He actually did quite well for a shitfit PVE Raven too, had my Wolf in less than half armour with his T1 drones when I dropped him.

It's easy for you carebear types to jump on the smallest detail of anything you might regard as 'not real PVP' or some such but, you frequently do it without knowing what I'm capable of so, here's the deal: if you want to criticise my PVP, come and fight me.

Everyone that has actually fought and beaten me gets my ear. Blade VII is the most notable, Praethis Starloe is another, as is Sai Talos and a few others. If they tell me I'm doing bad, then I go do better. You, on the other hand. Who the **** even are you? Whelp, I could care less what you think of my ability until you've been on the end of my guns. K?

Wait.... did you just pull the old, "I can pvp = I'M TEH BEST FOREVAH" strawman? Are you actually patronising me? Nowhere in my post, anywhere, was I pretending to be an elite pvp'er. I was pointing out the good that can come from what carebears so liberally label as 'griefing' as if all it can do is damage. This unhealthy fixation you carebear types have with damage is... telling, but...

At what point in anything up there did I claim to be 'elite'? Better than you? Sure, of course I am, your jealousy, strawmanning and quote mining makes that apparent, as does your lack of killboard. Like, you're not even there, you don't exist. People with 0 - 50 killboards are literally better than you as well.