EVE General Discussion

Even when CCP does very clearly draw a line in the sand; Erotica 1 for example, a vocal minority are still not satisfied and argue that either there should be no line in the sand because this is, Eve Online and it meant to be 'ard innit' or they see the line and argue that it is is the wrong place.

Once again, I put it to those who want 'clarification' come up with a workable proposal CCP and the player base can get behind.

Most of this thread is just like three year kids kids saying, 'yeah but' to everything their parents say.

Put up, or shut up.

I agree with a lot of the "ideals" behind The New Order, but yeah, I disagree with the way things have been done as of late. Entirely too much "pestering" for lack of a better term, trying to get someone to snap and generate an all-important blog post.

I'm cool with a gank, a smarmy evemail asking for a permit, and going from there. It's just not cool to keep digging at and targeting someone, regardless of their "goldmine" status.

If you get tears, great, show 'em off, post 'em, and get it out there so we can all giggle. If you just get a "gf", don't keep going on someone in an attempt to elicit rage.

You have drawn entirely the wrong inference from my use of the term, 'vocal minority' They were a vocal minority and did argue their case very passionately, good for them.

My point is that many posters in this thread want CCP to be more explicit about what is and what is not beyond the pale, but even when CCP do draw a very clear line in the sand, some folk are still not happy.

But of course you knew that, you are just trying to twist what I said to make yourself feel good.

That is fine with me.

The thing about drawing clear lines, is that they shouldn't be drawn "now and then" or "when the mood strikes".


Clear lines should always be drawn.

The complaints pop up when clear lines are not drawn, which is the case with the bans that this thread is discussing.

Well, being there are thousands of people playing this game, I'm not sure that "the playerbase" can "get behind" anything. That's a whole lot of people youre expecting to agree on something.

But, I'll give you what I can get behind: CCP can and should vigorously and consistently enforce the rules of the game when we're IN their game, in their house, so to speak. CCP has no juris diction outside of their own servers and "events" such as fanfest. What I do on MY time, on MY property (MY TS server, for example) is beyond the purview of CCP's TOS/EULA. To be perfectly honest, I really can't understand why folks can't seem to wrap their head around that.

Your rules in your house, my rules in my house. Simple.

actually, any clarity would be good.

"use your brain"
and
"look up the definition of harrassment if you don't know it"

have cleared up absolutely nothing.

Sorry if I took you the wrong way.

My point still stands,

those who want clearer lines in the sand, should say what they want them to be.

And one of their rule is that they can revoke you your license you to their likings. They can revoke your license just because they don't like your face. Hell! They don't even need to state a reason.

Afterall what happened on the TS3 has a link to EVE because it started in EVE and EVE Items were used as leverage.

Mind you you only rent a license to use EVE-Online, they can nullify your license at any time.

And so can I.

Stop acting like customer-company relations is a one-way street where the company just does whatever it wants without consequence, because that really isn't the case.

If CCP starts banning a bunch of people under questionable and ambiguous circumstances, others will get fed up and take their patronage elsewhere.