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Please Help. Clueless ratting and anoms.

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Paranoid Loyd
#21 - 2014-09-12 01:11:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Good Gawd, for the last time it was not an assumption, it was just an observation. What derailed this thread is you and Jenn aSide posting animosity towards me for pointing it out.

It was an assumption as he gave no indication either way. Therefore you have no proof.

observation - a remark, statement, or comment based on something one has seen
assumption - a thing that is accepted as true or as certain to happen, without proof.

DeMichael Crimson wrote:

More importantly it doesn't matter if the OP did or didn't ask his corp for help. The corp itself should be checking up on it's new members quite often, especially if that new member is a new player to this game. Most new players don't even know they're in trouble until they get into the same situation as the OP.

Have you ever been part of a corp with 7000+ members? Ideally you would hold everyone's hand but it simply is not possible. Should he have joined Brave Newbies? Maybe, maybe not but without more information, we can't comment on that as that would be an assumption.

DeMichael Crimson wrote:

You know what's getting on my nerves, the fact that you recently climbed on the troll band-wagon and started making personal attacks against me. You guys drew first blood and started attacking me and my posted reply to the OP. Do I attack and flame you when you post replies to others? No, that's something trolls do.

Recently? Lol
I will troll (by your definition, not mine) anyone who makes a foolish comment such as the one you did.

DeMichael Crimson wrote:

What really bothers me is you posting smug, self righteous, sarcastic remarks in an attempt to demean my reputation in these forums. You make claims of knowing, reading and following my 6+ years of posting history yet you're only a 1 year old character. Obviously you haven't read all of my posted replies and if you did then you wouldn't be saying I constantly post negative replies in these forums.

You are demeaning your own reputation, I simply pointed it out.
Where did I say anything about knowing your whole post history?
This character may be 1 year old, but you have heard of alts right?
Two more assumptions. Ugh

Constantly and increasingly are two different things. I said increasingly.

The last alt I used to post you were quite friendly with. Blink But you changed man, whether you want to admit it to yourself or not is your choice.

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!

DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#22 - 2014-09-12 03:28:24 UTC
Paranoid Loyd wrote:

It was an assumption as he gave no indication either way. Therefore you have no proof.

observation - a remark, statement, or comment based on something one has seen
assumption - a thing that is accepted as true or as certain to happen, without proof.
I've seen statements here in the forums proclaiming Brave Newbies as a very helpful corp for new players and I've seen a new player in Brave Newbies asking for help here in the forums. Obviously those observations conflict with each other and as such I made a skeptical comment based on those observations. I don't need any proof since I haven't made any claims of it being true or false, one way or the other.

The only people here making assumptions are you and Jenn aSide. You people are not mind readers so stop saying you know the intention of my comment. In fact both of you passed over a key word in the statement and misinterpreted the context of my original comment :

'You've been in Brave Newbies Inc. for over a month now. Seems all the hype about that corp helping new players is nothing more than a crock of crapola.'

Seems = To give the impression of being; appear

Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Have you ever been part of a corp with 7000+ members? Ideally you would hold everyone's hand but it simply is not possible. Should he have joined Brave Newbies? Maybe, maybe not but without more information, we can't comment on that as that would be an assumption.
Love how you guys constantly twist statements out of context in an attempt to prove yourself right. I said the corp should check up on it's new members, especially if the new member is a new player to this game. Nowhere did I say the corp should check up on and help all of it's members.

As for making assumptions, you're doing it again by inferring that all 7k+ members would be online and in game at the same time.

Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Recently? Lol
I will troll (by your definition, not mine) anyone who makes a foolish comment such as the one you did.
Seriously, the only here making foolish comments is you. Please stop.

Paranoid Loyd wrote:
You are demeaning your own reputation, I simply pointed it out.
Where did I say anything about knowing your whole post history?
This character may be 1 year old, but you have heard of alts right?
Two more assumptions. Ugh

Constantly and increasingly are two different things. I said increasingly.

The last alt I used to post you were quite friendly with. Blink But you changed man, whether you want to admit it to yourself or not is your choice.
Again you attempt to demean my reputation, especially after I posted an example that negates your assumption. Since you've only been in the forums for a year, you have no clue how I post so you can't really make a comparison and more importantly, are not qualified to pass judgement.. Now if you have an alt that was around longer than 1 year ago and can show proof, then post your statements with that character.

Anyway, this thread is now officially derailed and will probably be locked soon. I hope you're happy now. I will admit one thing, I definitely forgot to follow the Golden Rule of forum posting - Don't Feed The Trolls.



DMC
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#23 - 2014-09-12 03:45:46 UTC
Isn't it amazing (-ly sad) how one person can make an incorrect, ignorant , childish and slanderous comment, get called on it, and somehow everyone else is trolling?
Neven Cengari
Perkone
Caldari State
#24 - 2014-09-12 05:43:18 UTC
I can't speak for whether the OP had seen much handholding from the Braves but I can attest with absolute certainty that he had not been without help.

He had spent weeks in our home system ratting and mining. During all that time he was not only allowed but encouraged to join our standing fleet , had access to our station, intel, and general camaraderie we offer our allies who come to hang out with us.

I know for a fact he was given advise, answers to all and any questions he had, suggested fits, etc because I was present during many of those discussions and participated in them myself. His barge/transport was scouted/escorted any time he asked for it. When he told us he got his ratting ship killed one of my corpmates gave him a free Vexor Navy Issue; I believe over time he recieved other free ships as well. What's more, he must have been well aware he could have asked to join any of us while ratting and would not have been refused.

For the record, exploration - specifically relic sites - is extremely good here (Sansha territory). I know because it's my main source of income, and being pretty lazy (which amounts to me doing 4-5 sites a day at most) I still pull a very substantial sum, more than enough to cover my PvP expenses and then some. To my knowledge the OP does not PvP so I am not sure why he's having so much trouble making ends meet.

All in all, if he hasn't figured it out by now, he's either incapable of doing so or completely unwilling. Whichever it is, the problem is between his monitor and his char, and most definitely not with the Braves.
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#25 - 2014-09-12 06:06:32 UTC
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode

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