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The storyline gear is miniscule as far as production goes. I admit to not being an industrialist...maybe there are more uses?

Currently even though invention takes 1 run from a BPC, you still currently need 10 BPC to set of 10 inventions of the same item at any one time, becuase the BPC is tied up for the duration of the invention.

You mention multiple invention runs which is great but will that mean the BPC is NOT tied up in the invention process so that we can have literally 1 max run BPC that we can use for setting up 10 invention runs at once?

under multiple invention runs you also mention so they don’t have to launch them manually every hour, which is what we’re going to do with this set of changes. Does this mean that we can set off as many invention runs that we have skills for an then another set could run afterwards.

So I could set of 10 inventions, queue another 50 inventions then go off and do something else?

Alos, and I probably missed it in the wall of text, but how will we increase our % chance of success within this new system?

So CCP, if I may come with a suggestion:

before utterly destabilizing the T3 market, wouldn't it be an idea to rebalance the various subsystems before making the cookie cutter builds extremely oversupplied because of the ability to freely choose the outcome of reverse engineering attempts?

The entire subsystem market revolves around that mechanic currently, because it's hard to keep up a steady supply of the cookie cutter subsystems that everybody wants since even with a rather sizeable investment into reverse engineering, you're not guaranteed to get any decent amounts of those subsystems.

These changes are a very big resounding Meh. Does it seem natural that there's more of one type of datacore in use than another, or the wrong type of datacore? Probably not. Had it ever even occurred to me that this was some sort of 'problem' with industry. Nope.

Are data interfaces super-annoying to forget back in Jita, sure, I'll give that one to you.

Teams? I guess this is fine. Invention costs are usually pretty low though, so I guess I'll probably just run my invention out of Jita or Nibain or wherever the best team is.

As for the multiple inventions being chained together... This is more love/hate. It's my opinion that you guys are pretty careless about hacking time out of production. As others have pointed out you've basically killed T2 module production as the margins are getting low to the point of not worth doing for many people. Crius was basically a big minimum wage reducer for the T2 manufacturer. So my suggestion is to be sure to couple this with a compensatory time hike. Short example, I might be able to log on to put in 5- 1 hour inventions during a day where I'm not busy. So make sure to pump invention time up to 4.5 hours or so, otherwise I'll be able to do all of my corp's invention on a single character.

I was dead set opposed to Granularity when I first looked at it. I had my morning shower beer though and have adjusted my opinion. I can keep my planning centered around the bad bpc and be left with some extra mats at the end. Those mats are actually a pain in the butt, as they have to be reintegrated into future projects or sold back to market, but it's not the planning nightmare I first thought it would be. So basically another meh change. However I would beg that you let me view the ME/TE of my bpc's in the inventory window! Especially now that you'll be randomizing which ones I get!

To get out of the meh zone, y'all need to do a few things:

-Keep the chaining and increase invention time to compensate
-Go ahead with the T3 merge
-Add a bunch of end to end time back into T2 manufacturing. This pumps up margins to make it more worth doing.
-Add risk to manufacturing. This is the critical one. Crius made it impossible to lose at manufacturing. You guys need to genius up a way to incentiveize getting the mats into space for an extended period of time (significantly more than 24 hours) so that they are at risk of being destroyed. At the same time you have to ensure that this incentive doesn't provide null production with an unbeatable advantage. Something like pumping up station tax 100% might do the trick, but I'm sure it has down-sides.

Will the T2 mining ships - Hulk, Mackinaw, Skiff - still be considered Gallente, for the purposes of the second Science skill?

Thanks for the devblog.

Two questions/issues:

1 - With Battleship construction, right now it provides no bonus to production but is required at different levels to build higher level items. While I'm not really OK with allowing anyone who trains a skill to level 1 to build more advanced items than people who make the decision to train that skill for no other reason than to build those advanced items,

- What bonus will Advanced ship construction skills have to want to raise them to level 4 or 5?
- If you do not provide a bonus, then what purpose does a level 4 Advanced ship skill have in this new system and will you reset these skills for all players?

2 - Costs of T3 items are primarily determined by Melted Nanoribbons and one or two polymers. Will you adjust the salvage drop rates (maybe this should have been done with the WH updates) or readjust the requirements so that there is a more dynamic market for building T3? After you dumb this down and combine it with invention, the market is going to tank and cease to be specialized. Can you make some sort of adjustments to ensure that doesn't happen as badly?

A final reaction: while the tiered level of invention success and failure looks good and all, it's just going to muck up any sort of industrial planning. If that's what you want to do, fine but most people don't run an invention job without trying to figure out if it's worth their time over the long run. Also, people usually don't run one or two invention jobs, they do 100's. But you know this. I'm not convinced on this change really.

Thanks

i really hope prices on T3 subs drop significantly .. having subs from 10 -50 mil is bad and makes T3's far less versatile .. that and rigs ofc ... but the subs costing more than the hull is just bad design ...

subs being say 3-4 mil each is much healthier for T3 versatility

Exactly. That's the worst that can happen and since it all averages out what's the point of it? There is no gameplay here when you account for the scale at which EVE manufacturing is done. Looking at this from a single run perspective ("Oh wow, I got an EXCEPTIONAL result!") is unrealistic.

would like to congratulate whoever created this image used in the dev blog

invention chance new

as i thought it was a quite eloquent depiction of the fine line between genius (exceptional) and insanity (critical).

The rise of Augmentation and its dethroning of Symmetry begs to differ with you.

Also, TE and Runs are very easily merged together into a single attribute. If you operate in a field where datacore costs are minor, you can also merge in +% chance, and the only attributes you're finally left with are +ME and Optimal SSlot/MSlot Ratio Modifier.