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Love that graph displaying a significant surge in manufacturing being done.

How about breaking it down showing how much was done in high sec pre and post Crius. Or how many characters are doing industry today (and not 1 week's worth to test out the new system), as opposed to 1 year ago, and where they are located. Maybe that would explain the drop in the PCU.

I also love how many T2 profit margins, as predicted, are wiped out for the casual player now.
DC II's are at about 60-70% of their pre-Crius price, as an example, while risk of transportation, time required in said transportation, and overhaul hassle, has gone up exponentially.

If you can pull up detailed graphs exploring overall manufacturing, you could certainly produce detailed ones showing the activity and profit margins in the various sectors of space now.

But I am not holding my breath on that one.

As for these invention changes, who really cares anymore. (Though I am pretty sure you will get an earful from whatever wh groups are left after the jump range disaster)
You are making changes for change sake, as far as I can see.
You will do what you think is best, regardless of the player feedback.

Based on the activity level in game recently, that has worked out beautifully.

Do you guys really believe that changing this system into something else, even if it is supposed to be simpler, will encourage more people to play Eve in the long run? All it does it allow the casual industrial player to figure out faster that he should stop industry because he is barely making profits, or even losing ISK.

But hey, outside of a surge pre-Crius to use up some soon to be useless T2 BPC's, I don't do industry anymore, and shut down my indy accounts long ago. These new low prices actually are good for me, as module costs go down. Too bad they wreck the game for so many.

Sure there was a surge of industry after the patch - people shut down weeks prior in order to not get raped over in the market after the changes. Show a graph of previous 6 months if you want cred CCP.

Little bad luck. If you're not /really/ unlucky, you can get some of your datacores back. you've still failed, but it's not cost you so much.

as an inventor i do agree with some of the comment regarding multiple invention run time - pls try to tweak it so that at least it will coincide with our RL work timer rather than making it into another alarm clock indy CTA!

I do not agree in removing data interface and substituting team for it.

i do like the non binary outcome for the t2 bpc and the abilities to choose the subsystem outcome for the t3 subs bpc

as for the JF - can increase the base chance or keep it as it were?

by merging RE and invention - will you making them bland?

When it comes to decyptors I always wished there was a way to dynamically build your own instead of the static decyptor we have now. Perhaps there is a way to change each current decyptor into giving a single bonus. Have one that gives +1 ME, another that gives +1 TE, another that gives +1 run, and another that give +% chance. Then we can use any number and combination of them that we choose (with a maximum) to have even greater influence on the output BPC.

Part of the changes for industry were designed to increase skill in industry so industry could be something you are "good" at. I feel like the ability to decide how to build the best decyptor for the job would take some skill.

Also, I kind of wished you would have just doubled the materials needed for invention and by doing so guaranteed success. This way if I want 20 BPCs I still need to invest the same amount of materials, I just don't have to try inventing 40 jobs to get there (with perfect skills). Then the skills could influence the % of exceptional, great, good, standard success. Great skills means you will have a competitive edge because you will get better T2 BPCs.

So confirmed T2 version of orca and rorqual?

Going back 2 years and redrawing the same graph tells the same story.

if i choose to do a what is the correct term - a continuous 30 runs invention using the new system - is each run success being calculated separately or in batches?

Coz as some of the poster have said - once you run enough large sample - eventually the success rate wont matter as much for some of the items.

Each run will have their success calculated separately.

Not liking the changes.

In my mind, anything that makes invention harder = good. Anything that makes it easier = bad. There are some exceptions to the rule, but generally, this is where the margins on T2 production come from. So you've got two things that qualify as good here. First, even if it's annoying, is the skill requirement rebalance. I may be sad that my Mechanics V skill won't be all that useful anymore, but eggs and omelets and all that. Second is the meta item removal. Lower chance of invention success means more time to successfully invent.

Now you go and muck it up by raising the invention chance for ships and including the new non-binary success chance. The dev blog states this is "quite needed to counteract the success changes," but it doesn't present any evidence of that assertion. The ability to have multiple invention runs alone could be enough. I find recovering datacores to be questionable, as they long ago lost 90% of their market value. This is just going to hit them again, which is another nerf to data sites.

In short, I was really hoping this was going to go the other direction.