Science & Industry

Hi guys and girls
I apologise if this is a repeated question. Been trying to do some research and have came up trumps. Maybe one of your strapping young pilots cpuld help me out :)
Just wondering is it possible to gain 100% refine in high sec now? With level 5 skills in processing the relevant ore and implant? Standing needed for best yield?
And lastly, is my own POS a garanteed better yield? Possible drawbacks apart from fuel with going this direction?
Any help would be appreciated.
Many thanks
Dimitri

Thanks very much for the speedy response. Greatly appreciated. Info noted :)
So compress in a POS?

Ok awesome thank you very much

Slightly off topic, but along the lines...

what's the point in having reprocessing that goes to 100%, when you can't actually get 100% ?

Are they planning on introducing a new set of skills to it or..?

Because not everything has to be perfect.

Because they may want to provide more tweaks to mineral yields in the future, such as yet higher yielding processes but what sense does a 105% yield make?

Refining was changed for three reasons.

First: it gives CCP flexibility to add better refining "things". A perfectly safe NPC station should be the most basic place to refine. If anyone can get perfect refining in an NPC station, then there is little incentive to go through the expense and risk of putting up a facility to allow refining anywhere else. Now CCP can allow refining at better facilities to return more minerals than the basic station.

Facility................................Base Rate.....Skills + Implant........Extra Minerals Over NPC
NPC Station............................50%.................72.4%...............................-
High Sec POS.........................52%.................75.3%.............................4%
Low Sec POS..........................54%.................78.1%.............................8%
Upgr Minm Outpost.................60%.................86.8%............................20%
Since nobody can ever hit 100% refining, CCP still has the option to add more refining things in the future. Even better facilities? Even better implants? Additional add-ins we haven't thought of yet?

Secondly, it increases the barrier to entry to refining. Previously it was quite trivial for any miner to get perfect refining skills. Increasing the barrier to entry does three things. It makes miners stop and think if it is worth getting the implant and training all the ore skills to level 5, or if they should team up with someone who did, or if they should just sell their raw ore. Also, it increases the profits for those people who do train the skills and buy the implant. Finally, for those characters who do decide to train all the ore skills to 5, they have 6 more months of skills to train before they reach their goal of being a perfect refiner. This means more plexes used for dual training and perhaps more time in game before they get bored and quit. More profit for CCP. (Is my cynicism showing?)

Thirdly, it nerfs module refining. Fewer minerals coming from mission runners means more demand from miners, which "should" mean higher profits for miners.

Null sec minmatar outposts can reach up to almost 87% yield, which under the old system would have been something like a 115% yield. So they have already done it once and there are some refining implant gaps still to plug plus rorqual balancing to do so it's quite possible to increase max potential yield again.