EVE General Discussion

"why is this a problem" does it have to be a problem before it needs the option? Yes? Well lots of things have been added on which worked perfectly before, so why not just add this option.

well it's a big issue i think... i already read threads from players asking why every corp they apply to rejects it for beeing a possible spy... if new players without any connection to existing players can't find a good corp because the corps are overly paranoid about beeing awoxed how can this be a good thing?

it's way to easy to awox in this game imo even if you are very careful as this example proofs when the obvious solution is: don't recruit...

Because it gives terrible CEOs yet another excuse to be terrible?

Why do you want it is really what Im asking.

Why do you need this?

In its history, RIGID (A Rather Intimidating Group Of Individuals) Alliance, currently on hiatus, recruited over 200 players, a mix of newbs and veterans, giving plenty of people that exhibited a keen attitude the opportunity to fly with and learn from us and our community, and was never awoxed once. Apart from the few times Praethis or I decided someone was annoying enough to blow up, but that's different.. Cases of mistaken recruitment most of the time.

Anyway, the point is, what you just posted was a load of bollux. It's easy to awox if the corp in question is stupid. It is most certainly not easy to awox in a well established community. And there's not a paranoid bone amongst us, to be quite honest. Caution =/= paranoia. Caution is just smart. If more people exercised it, I'd have less killmails.

This, actually.

In my 10 years of eve I have had roughly 5 actual corp theifts:

1) when I first started I had a director go inactive for a long while and I did not remove his roles, when he came back he took 300m (this was in 05 my corp had little money so was a big loss)

2) I borrowed isk for a director and was sloe to pay back, so he decided to steal money with intrest from the corp (if he had just taken what I owed I would of been cool, this one bothers me little, because well, it was me being stupid)

3) A director gave the 'config star base' role to a new wh member.. yea that did not well. (he ejected all ships and offlined pos. Th same director was on at thei time and was able to stip his roles and reolnie the pos, but it took an hour and a few ships were blown up/swipped before the got the theif out) I was not happy about that.

4) I had been in a c5 recently for about a year, my corp is semi mothballed. I had a director who was on military deployment and would play sometimes. Well he came home and I was semi inactive. Turns out I did not realize he was parked in my wh with his alt. He let his main in and proceded to clear out all the hangers. Took around 10b. Semes I did not learn my damn lesson from 10 years ago

Theift happens when you are stupid. If you pay attention and don't give out random roles you are fine. There are plenty of ways to midigate theft. I will however agree, corp roles and pos roles SUCK and need an overhaul. But not to stop theft, as that should still happen, but to make some of the roles easier to understand/give out, as well better access levels would be nice.

This, its also one of my corp rules, that anything and everything in a pos and all pos' are corp property. If it gets blown up or stolen oh well, you will not get reimbursed, if you go inactive for a long time and don't tell me, I WILL impound and sell your stuff as a corp asset. If you want to keep it, don't bring it to the pos, and or you log off in it.

I like Eggs.

Then why did you disagree with

"No, the majority of thefts occur because corp members outsmart their dimwitted 'leaders', that's all."

Your actions say you agree.

Its an interesting one - personally I've got a "briefcase" orca and likewise carrier that I store any ships I care about at all and use the SMA for incidental stuff, more due to not trusting the POS mechanics than a corp trust issue (its in my nature not to leave things to chance if I can avoid it), but that isn't an option for everyone.

I wouldn't want to impact too much on actual proper infiltrations but it is kind of low when someone can't handle the temptation of having access to that amount of ISK and steals everything they can get their hands on - the previous corp I was in recruited exclusively from long standing members on a certain forum and we tried to treat everyone equally hoping the shared background/community would mean a certain amount to people, one day we woke up to find one member had given in to temptation and stolen everything that wasn't nailed down - kind of sucked that by treating everyone basically equally the POS mechanics meant everyone was basically at the same level of risk to theft.