Wormholes

Now that Matias Otero has resigned and Asayanami Dei has taken his place (link), will wormholers have the amount of representation that we need in order to have our voices heard?

Personally I am not sure that representation is the issue, as we already have a CSM representative that seems to really understand the wormhole community. Maybe it is possible that having more than one voice on the CSM makes the issues of wormholers seem more legitimate.

It really bothered me during the alliance tournament when I heard them talking about how they would be changing 0.0, and that they were bringing it up now to start the dialog going so that they could work out the best direction to go with players. CCP kept emphasizing how the key is to take time to make sure the change is the right change. I can't help but think that if the wormhole community had as much representation that they might have approached the wormhole changes in the same way.

Edit: This is not a thread to bash Asayanami, if you have criticisims of his views keep them civil, otherwise please keep the conversation on topic.

meh possibly.

Corbexx has done an outsanding job so far, another rep may be useful to help out with research, but decisions still comes down to ccp.

I'd take AT coverage with a huge grain of salt. It is mainly null corps who submit teams, so it makes sense their coverage addresses that audience. However, as someone who has done a fair amount of SOV warfare, I'd be curious how they are going to approach null. Changing a few stats here and there is not going to cut it with that crowd.

Agreed.....

While this may seem like the case at first glance.
I am of the opinion that it wont slow the process down, but add to the process.
what we dont need is more yes men. And having 2 wh CSM members with opposing views is a good thing.

Take for example the new frig wh's, and jump mass distance.
Now CCP is going to implement anything they want to, CSM or no CSM.
But if say corbexx was all for more frig whs, and increased distance from the wh based on mass, and asay was for less frig whs and decreased distance based on mass. surely this would help balance the arguments on both sides and allow CCP to come up with a compromise or just ignore the CSM suggestions.

TLDR. more WH CSM are good because hopefully we dont have more yes men and creating more serious internet spaceship discussions

No no dont think corbexx is a yes man at all. i just dont see how having multiple views will slow the process down, i think it will add an opinion that we wouldnt normally have with just corbexx.

Based on evidence yes they did jsut implement the wh changes without listening to much feedback, but because of NDA we dont know how much or little they did listen to, we can just hope they did listen even a small bit.
I just believe having 2 opposing views from the wh CSM members is a good thing, and not as much of a detriment as you initially think

I'm not too happy that Asayanami is the new CSM member, simply because I think hes view on some things are very very different from what most of comunity thinks, and if I'm not mistaking they are different from corbexx'es.
Hes a good guy overall, but just might not be the right guy for this job at this moment, but hope we are all wrong, the time will show.

I really never understand why people seem to think the CSM has all this power. They are the equivlant of a viceroy, advisor, or in the us' case a Tzar to the President/Dictator.

CCP is the dictator.

They make a decision and go 'hey CSM how does this look to you?"

The CSM looks at it, and based on what they know of the people they represent they can go 'that looks good!" or "No that is garbage here is why" or "you know if you tweeked it this way it would be better"

CCP has final say, they can agree or tell the CSM "too bad, this is how we are doing it" end of discussion.

The point of the CSM is for two fold. 1) Because due to the T20 incident, they made a group of players to act as a kind of watch dog on CCP. If anything funny happens, the players tend to know ti first, and can use the CSM to make CCP aware of misconduct and other issues.

And 2) Because going though hundreds, and hundreds of pages of forum post to get a feel for how people think is a PITA. Its easier to turn tot eh "wh rep" and go 'hey we want to do this, what do you think of this and how will it be received"

That's it. They do nothing else. Have no power, no say. Unless CCP says 'this is a project we want you guys to work on and give direct feed back, we will change it based on what you say." Then the CSM is nothing but a dude who stands there and goes 'I told you so' when the Dictator buys 'invisible' clothes.

So in short, ccp kicked out an inactive csm so they could take on another that will side with them in this bullshit patch.

I really hope this post can be Tldr'd with "rabble rabble".. we'll see.

How do you even have any tears left at this point?

It has become more apparent over time that the CSM has been used increasingly less and less by CCP for monitoring the wishes of the EVE playerbase. I truly feel sorry for CSM and ex-CSM members because I'm sure that those who read this may acknowledge it with a begrudging sigh of approval.

And I'm not just talking about Hyperion, of which corbexx has repeatedly supported those who have vehemently spoken out against CCP and its brazen ignoring of feedback. Things that have meant a lot to the playerbase at large in terms of quality of play such as the "fixing" of sov mechanics in null, POS changes, and new unique content that have been requested many times over have been largely ignored by CCP in favor of adding "content" that is a rehashing of existing elements and mechanics with a new skin and name. CSM members in the past have also forwarded these bigger projects that we truly want and need, now look where we are. Nothing is really different from the way the game was when I started playing a few years ago.

I have all the warmest wishes for Dei, and sincerely hope I am proven wrong, but I do not forsee anything changing because of CCP's method of operating.