Science & Industry

Yes, except its a container in my personal hanger. I cant move it, its too big to go into a ship I have. And it wont repackage because of the audit for 3 weeks.

I tried reprocessing and even trashing the container, but with an audit container, I cant.

Am I really to wait 3 weeks for this? A dead production run and product in the pipe I cant sell?

EDIT: Nevermind, I found out I can contract a container that has an audit log. Bizarro. Should be a way to clear an audit log so you can do something else with it. But whatever, my itty's are delivered.

I totally agree, if they wanted us all in NULL or low sec, then allow the 1.0 and 0.9 sec security location to drop when ppl attack other players in the likes of Jita and Amarr, so that trade routes change... Dont cripple the game by making the UI so incredibly bad, you guys have always made steps forward, this is a huge step back, but as the quote above it makes it easier for the Logistic players to look elsewhere, even although there blood sweat and tears have all gone into this game you developed that we all love...

Would it be possible to lift perhaps the 1000 item limit per hangar floor/can?

If not generally then make it so, at least, that BPO's / BPC's do not count towards it with other items and have their own separate counter?

I just counted and after the removal of the ore and ice compression prints I still seem to have around 824 BPO's (and countless numbers of cans loaded with various BPC's) - granted few of them are for useless items (like python and anaconda mines) but I like to look at them and keep them with others still. That is without the capital stuff, most of the battleships, etc etc. I believe it is a bit silly that if you own all T1 BPO's in game (just one of each) you can not keep them all in one can / station hangar to marvel at them all at once.

Ok, There is one small problem that has come up a couple times. Some of the password containers can not be moved into a ship once the are assembled, UI just won't let you move them.

So you can bring these containers to your POS in a packaged state, but once unpackaged or assembled in the array they can not be moved back into a ship unless they are repackaged.

Here lies the problem. You can not repackage things at a POS.

So if you ever need to take the POS down, or want to move your operation to another system with a lower index, as one of the developer blogs suggested, you cannot, as you can not un-anchor the arrays with these containers in them. And can not remove the containers without repackaging them. Since you cannot UN-anchor a POS with arrays still anchored around it, you are stuck.

There is one other issue that could be solved by enabling players to repackage stuff at a POS.

Before the update you could fit a packaged freighter inside another freighter. I get why the other capitals had there packaged size increased, so they can not fit inside a freighter, but freighters should not have been included in this. I will explain why freighters are unique in this situation.

The issue with freighters is they are needed as a material to produce jump freighters at a POS. No other capital has a T2 counterpart that requires a T1 packaged ship as an input material. You can not place an assembled freighter in a Ship Assembly Array. It has to be packaged. the old way was to bring the packaged freighter to the POS inside another freighter. Now they do not fit.

You have to fly the freighter to the POS. However, since you can not repackage the freighter at the POS that also will not work.

Currently the only way to build a jump freighter at a POS is if the T1 freighter is also built there so you have a packaged freighter to place in the array.

If you could repackage items at a POS all these problems would be solved. You could repackage secure password protected containers in arrays to empty the array to take it down, You could fly the freighter to the POS, stick it in a ship maintenance array, and repackage it., to be used in jump freighter construction.

I assume this is an unintended oversight. It should be an easy fix. Although I know you all hate digging into the old POS code. It will be really nice when that old code is gone.

This change is still not working since the last patch. Members with take access to a hangar which contains materials in a can are not able to use the materials. Even if the container has no settings/passwords.

Any idea on if/when this will be resolved? Would be nice to know an ETA as this pretty much means no one except Directors are able to manufacture currently.

EDIT: I posted the issue on the "Crius Issues" thread.

Just as a side note, Kenneth

In some stations instead of containers for the massive number of bpc that i have i have been using noob ships, as the Industry UI does not read bp in ships cargos. Its not a pretty workaround but it is one that considerably speeds up the UI.
While it doesnt help at pos, throwing cans into a industrial works wonders for stations .

Okay, I believe I solved my issue. It appears members with a "Based at" location is overriding "Headquarters" permissions (strangely only in the manufacturing UI. The inventory UI is not affected which caused so much confusion). So even though I was attempting to build something at our headquarters, I was not able to due to my character having a "Based at" set with no 'based at' permissions.

Hope this helps others.

ps... CCP gods, this stuff is near impossible to solve with one account.


Edit: Never mind... still broken. I accidentally had "Containers Take" access set. Is _anyone_ else here experiencing this issue? Am I an idiot doing something wrong???? I feel that the forums would be flooded with posts about this

I find it rather annoying that if your container has ANY configuration options checked that you can't pull from or set delivery to an indy job.

The pulling from is easy enough to get around, just uncheck everything to install the job and then reset the config afterwards, but in order to actually deliver the job once finished the container has to be unconfigured (which when you have corp members clicking the deliver all button without paying attention to who has jobs finished... ugh) or they just end up in the hangar outside of the destination can (where anybody with access to that hangar can take it... again.... ugh)

Also why can't we start a job in a corp hangar that delivers to a member's, or our own for that matter, hangar?

Having a corp office for an indy corp allows members to use blueprints securely, but doesn't allow for secure job delivery, doesn't make much sense at all....


We have all these security measures in the mechanics, that if setup properly, can allow members full access to blueprints that would normally be very expensive on their own, but yet they fall short when it comes to personal security...


Honestly if a corp takes the time to setup security measures it should work the way it LOOKS like it should work.