EVE General Discussion

I agree that 6 hours is too short. It was an example, not a concrete suggestion. I think 12 - 16 hours is probably more appropriate if we're going to talk actually reducing the timer.

I really think that the timer is entirely beside the point here anyway.

While they're at it, make neutral logi flag as criminal in HiSec. It's time that form of wardecing dodging risk averse behavior stopped.

EDIT: *Snip* Please refrain from personal attacks. ISD Ezwal. of course I'm talking about neutral logi in the context of war.

PvP focused players usually tell others to deal with it when they blow up ships, some actually find a way to deal with it and then the PvP focused player complains.... rather hilarious.

It's a sandbox game, creativity is a weapon far more powerful than any blaster.

Why not?




Not compared to corp reform costs, no.

CCP. And because CONCORD can only find us, in the lore, based on a module that is installed in all capsuleer ships that monitors the use of strictly offensive modules.

That's about the only thing justifies the infallible magic space police even existing.

Were it up to me, they would not even come close to existing in their present form.



Everything you just said can be said about neutral scouts.

Can we CONCORD them, too?

If your corp is at war, you should get a 7-day timer before you are allowed to quit said corp.

Most other things in the game have consequences, skill training takes years and war decs should be no exception; joining a corp should require thought and commitment, rather than encouraging players to avoid the consequences of their actions with no penalty whatsoever.

I must respectfully disagree with you good sir. :) if the aggressing corp want to wardec all the alliances/corps in an area then I feel they should be able to. I think the current cost is good because if two corps want to go at it in hi sec, it shouldn't break their bank. If a corp is decced but doesn't think they would stand a chance, like to the point that its no fun for them and would probably be a lame duck shoot to the aggressing corp, then its real easy to make an alt CEO of the corp and hang out in another player corp or an NPC corp for a week. Besides, if a merc corp or hi sec wardec corp wants fun PvP, how fun is blowing up industrial ships to them when they are flying badass boomboom sticks?

I don't think the current mechanics are broken, I think they work excellent the way they are.

Player corps need more incentive to join, or even exist in the first place, I agree 100% with Dave on that.

Here's a thought I just had that will probably not be very popular, but read it through.

What if a player corp that achieved 20 people or more was given access to their own 'deep space' pocket that nobody outside of the corp could access. This would prevent alt trips to get stuff for them - nothing outside of their own corp will have access. They would have their own station there for storing and docking, but no station services, not one. There would be zero market access, not even a regional market. When you opened the market, there would be nothing in there. This would keep players from being able to just sit out there forever and avoid everything. There would be zero content there except for their station, and the content they created themselves.

It could be attached to a solar system via an acceleration gate that generates upon a player request when they are in that system, just like accelerates generate when you hit 'accept' on a mission. There would be some kind of UI for it as well, perhaps in the people and places menu. The advantage for them, of course, is that if they get wardecced, they can literally disappear from local in that system and dock up in complete safety, IF they can evade their attackers. Additionally, they themselves would have no access to local for the system they are attached to. It'll be like a tiny wormhole system, but without the system. Essentially, a very deep safe completely disconnected from the rest of EVE with a two-way mirror in between. They would have a place to store their stuff, which of course could still be vulnerable to corp thieves/awoxers etc.

I admit, it's not well thought out, I'm just throwing something out there. I'm literally winging this whole idea. Sure, there should be no perfect safety in the game ever, but there already is right now, to be perfectly honest. If you can just drop corp to avoid wardecs in highsec, then you are virtually untouchable. Something like this MIGHT give players more reason to band together, kinda like an exclusive gift for being part of a club. I don't know.

As it is, the only thing keeping corps together in highsec is POS's and POCOs really. There's very little real community beyond CODE and some of the highsec merc alliances.

Then it's an inherited WarDec then.



Except scouts don't actively participate in the war the way logi does and don't activate assistance modules.


Fixed quoting. ISD Ezwal.