Wormholes

You're trying to add in too many options for people with varying skills. Kitchen sink fleets are fine if you're ganking some poor drake that doesn't know where he is, but for an actual doctrine you want to keep things pretty standard. Decide what you want the doctrine to do, pick a core ship and build around that. If you want to kite, go fast with good damage projection and bring defensive webs and range damps and if you want to brawl go heavy tank and dps with solid logi and neuts

When deciding doctrines theres a few things you need to look at.

1. The cost. Who's paying for it and what can be afforded.
2. Skills of people flying the doctrine. Its a good idea to plan doctrines out so they are stepping stones to better doctrine.
3. What is the doctrine for. How many pilots, engagement range, etc.

You said corp is paying for it. Thats cool but HACs are relatively expensive. For comparison Blue-Fire's first doctrine was enyo's and Exeqs that cost 40 mil each. We live in a c5 and don't like to jew much so it worked well for us.

It sounds like you're on the edge of being able to fly a mixed hac gang well. Choose a doctrine you can fly today and make it so improving that doctrine skill-wise puts pilots closer to the doctrine you want to fly. Blue-Fire choose Gallente because it's the new Winmatar. Enyo's were stepping stone to proteus for dps we desperately needed in our t3 gangs. I'd suggest you go with and armor t1 cruiser gang with mixed ewar in utility slots.

Decide what your end goal doctrine will be. Say you want to fly a zealot and onieros gang. The doctrine you start flying is Pulse omens with exeq support, have t2 and meta fits. Be as accommodating to guys that need to cross train as possible. An entry level fit should be able to be trained into in less then a week. The shorter the better!

How big is your gang? You're gonna want a doctrine that is flexible enough so that you can fly it even in your off tz's. We choose enyo's because you can fly the doctrine with 3 people at a minimum. 2 enyo's and 1 exeq. The optimal comp is 5 enyos and 3 exeqs. Plan a doctrine around your average pilot count that can accommodate weekend and primetime player counts.

There's tons of stuff to consider so unless you give more details about your situation its very difficult to cater to your needs.

Yep, don't use HACs if you don't plan on bringing guardians.
T1 logis are really good ships but they only have T1 resists meaning they will be the weakest link in your fleet.
Having those high resist HACs doesn't help much when your logi gets blown up first.


Another doctrine I've seen for small gang home defense was remote repping Neut-geddons. Even a few of them can pack quite a punch. However it does take a bit of practice to fly them well. (managing remote reps/cap while also targeting the enemy for neuting and dps can go horribly wrong without practice)

We have a few of those already :), so I might just get some more (also helpful for rolling WHs now that an Orca is a pain.

Regarding the T1 logi, I was hoping that we could pin down enough Enemy DPS for the logi to stay out of range. However sniper Ishtars **** all over that idea. That being said he biggest Gang we have come up against was about 6 T3s + 2 Guardians so assuming you could keep any Prots off hte logis 3-4 T1 logi could tank that many then its just a matter of whether we have enough Nuets to take the Guardians down.

Any way, thanks for the advise, I'll have to come up with a T1 Doctrine and upgrade from there.

Sweet Thanks

I saw that too when EFTed the last time. They are really close to each other just some small tradeoffs depending on personal preference, but a zealot is about two times the price...


Another thing you guys might want to look into are the battlecruisers. No cruiser5 needed, warpspeed is not really a problem in wormholes and since you brawl it out most times anyways the speed is also not that much of a problem. But they pack a hellofapunch and good room for ewar.