Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Battleships and battlecruisers are at a huge disadvantage when operating solo and have been heavily penalized with the warp speed changes. With this change, they would receive 1-5 'wildcard' slots (which take the place of T3 subsystems in the fitting window) which can be used for any high, mid or low slot module (subject to CPU, powergrid, stacking or other limitations).

Faction Battleship ... 5 'wildcard' slots
T2 Battleship ... 4 'wildcard' slots
T1 Battleship ... 3 'wildcard' slots
T2 Battlecruiser ... 2 'wildcard' slots
T1 Battlecruiser ... 1 'wildcard' slot

Since most battleships and battlecruisers operate with maximum or near-maximum damage fits, this will not change DPS substantially (although obviously there will be some gains). It will, however give these ship classes the ability to run substantially more tank or various agility or warp modules to offset slower speeds. 'Wildcard' slots also offer the potential for radically different variations on traditional fits, which would keep things interesting.

No.

Slot layout is one of the ways in which ships of a given class are balanced against each other, and against the other classes. Maybe you should accept that, in the current meta, the idea of running a solo battleship is not a very good idea and try some other classes.

I shudder to think what a Machariel with 5 more tank slots would look like. Or a Vindicator.

I mean I can already get 300k EHP out of a damnation and you want to give me the ability to fit MORE tank on it?

OMG, the Widows. The ECM battleship fleets with 8 ECM modules each would blot out the sun.

Just...just no.

That'll be the goggles, stop sleeping in them...

Not supported.

In the main BS's and to some extent the original BC's are not really cut out to be solo ships and I doubt they ever were. It was only the terrible state of cruisers prior to there rebalance that allowed them to be used really successfully solo.

Battle ships are meant to be supported by or to support a fleet

With the way things currently are, this probably wouldn't work very well. It would be terribly hard to keep balanced and not make something too overpowered.

However, I like the idea of adding variety to fitting things and having ships that are more 'kitchen sink' for fittings --and less 'this is it's role and so it has a fairly predictable and standard fitting.'

I agree, and every time I go somewhere solo, I avoid using a battlecruiser.

Battleships are pretty excellent solo overall, though that massive drone bay most of them have is quite a hindrance.

its not even the weapons....this will hit a hardpoint limit (unless op is asking for that to removed too...then he has graphics and coders hating life redesigning with all this stuff)

Its the supporting mods. Damage mods, tank, TC/TE, etc....

I'd take a widow that has 4 wildcard mids to actually run the shield tank its supposed to have. If it wasn't all ecm there. Or just go wtf ecm heavy (more mids ecm fit, more ecm boost mods lows...or go 50/50 with it). While not happy with the paper bagness of the widow, the more reasonable side of me understands why its that way kind of. Then I see camel empire who found a great way to run them...and go yep, ccp not just picking on the widow in this case. Run right, supported right...magic happens.



I'd be looking at not ghetto shield tanked vindi too. That's its current gank setup tradeoff. Puts out some pain, but not the strongest shield tank around in its most common ghetto shield fit. 3 wildcard mids could fix that.