Wormholes

So if the data shows what you want then it is good data, but if it doesn't prove your claim the data must be flawed because data be damned this is a bad thing. And like Win says you guys wonder why CCP doesn't tell you anything.

Dunno about you. But my corp has actually seen an increase in activity since the summer holidays has ended, because people arent buggering around in the outernet.

So far I don't have an opinion on what the numbers may or may not show or even what the true impact is. I'm just not sure if the numbers will be straight forward enough to show a clear picture one way or another in the long term.

Learn statistics. You have an inconclusive sample without any dataset to compare it to for annual trends.

It shows a possible trend in that there is a drop that occurs at the same time as Hyperion. But without the previous years data sets, as well as data through the year we can't show if the trend is actually going to continue, or if the previous few weeks to Hyperion were in fact the exception and post Hyperion we have simply returned to the lower average value

We also don't know how much of this is actually due to the mechanics, and how much is due to player rage causing them to simply not even try regardless of the actual mechanics impact.

In short, insufficient data to make any meaningful conclusions.

I have a nagging suspicion that it has a lot to do with player rage.

Actually not the case at all, we have been whining for a long time that nobody mines in WH space in the numbers they used to and they could have refuted us at any point on that and CCP Fozzie only used it as a reference point in the WH Townhall.

I think they are quite happy ignoring idiots.

And they must be quite happy to have such staunch defenders. Even if the numbers that would point absolutely to activity decline were true, you´d bash on that just to prove your non-existing point.
Hyperion is a failure. Holes are beyond empty nowadays. No amount of wannabe PVP can fix that since people mostly have no interest in it. But you fail to see that, apparently.

WH space was on the decline a year to two years before Hyperion. This is largely due to a lack of actual new content being put into that region of space. 80% of what CCP does are tweaks and balances and maybe 20% new content addition to the game. CCP needs to wake the hell up and actually add NEW **** to WH space if anybody is going to spend their time there, instead of just tweak numbers and formulas they already have and hope people like what is being regurgitated.

Weren't some fantastic suggestions made during the roundtable CCP wanted to have to gather player input? And instead we recieve a mere set of tweaks we railed against for weeks. This is poor development in its prime.

Sure lets take a months worth of Data and ignore years worth of the same cap kills and ignore every other subcap class ship and all the other WH class's that are not cap capable to roll.

You need to math harder or i need to count like you.... 1+6-2x2=2? Right?

I'm more concerned because activity should be going up, since it's the end of the summer holiday period for most countries - the schoolyear has begun, and usually EvE activity in general rises. To see how the changes affected the amount of caps killed, you'd have to check the value of capital ship losses, since most everyone rolling with a cap will be using a specialized setup to do so (nanocaps ftl). But, it's just two weeks of data, should wait for at least a month's worth before doing anything about it.
As for frig WHs, a possible solution I see is lowering the chance of spawning to something like 2 to c6 space 10 to c5, 20 to c4, etc, as in more possible spawns with lower classes, with an emphasis on k-k space frig holes, like empire to 0.0 - that gives hisec channel fleets an option to roam in null and wormholers more of a chance to kill and be killed in our favorite cruiser sized ships. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't really see a frig swarm killing caps with sleepers on field as a possibility for anyone but the largest corps/alliances (even then, it's more likely the locals wouldn't be running with a frig hole in system).