EVE General Discussion

Is it possible and viable to train and play to be able to make almost everything you need in game from scratch ?

For example, if you fly t1 frigates and cruisers in pvp.
Could it be viable to mine or otherwise obtain minerals yourself for the ships and modules, to resarch t2 bpc-s for modules and only to buy moon minerals needed, or not even that if they can be obtained somehow.
Every way of obtaining materials comes to mind, from mining what do you need to ninja looting and salvaging.
Offcourse, the requirement for one fitted ship would not only be that you have the skills to fly it but to build as much as you can of it.

I am not sure myself, thats why i am interested in discussing about that :D

To me that sounds like fun way of playing but i dont know would you find problems down the road or would you find yourself spending too much time grinding minerals instead of isk.
Or the hassle is not much bigger, idk, maybe it would take just a bit more time to do everything like that, but that would be far more rewarding imho.

What do you think, could that be viable and time efficient to a degree.

Edit:
Has anybody tried something like that ?
What are your experiences ?

Sure, it could be done. But it's just not efficient or worth your time. Better spend an hour and get ISK for maybe 10 fully fitted frigates, compared to spending months on completing the same goal.

There is a huge difference between thinking it's free and trying to do a true solo experience of the game. If you don't want to interact with anyone beside shooting them, you won't have the choice but to mine for ship hulls. If you block the market by making yourself a "house rule", your mining being less efficient than someone without that rule who just buy minerals is irrelevant since you do not play by the same rule set. It's a sandbox after all.

As for the OP's question, it will be possible for a lot of things but T2 will be a challenge because getting the materials without the market is a large problem. You could siphon moons or try to catch haulers I guess... The rest will be a rather large time sink.

If you're not paying with PLEX its completely viable. It's pretty fun to build your own stuff also.

*edit* t2 stuff will take forever. When you say "make" i kinda read that as start out mining, build a t1 frig, and build your empire from scratch including killing NPC's and players for the items you use".

You can definitely make a career of being self sufficient, its just a lot of work.

But everything in Eve is.

You wond not pay with PLEX offcourse.

Yes, t2 is that which worries me.
I mean, that way you woldnt have a proffesion per se...
For example.. you need moon goo for new guns, how do you obtain it ? .. You fit a cover ops, stalk transports, find it and steal it.
Or... join a large alliance, go into 0.0 and steal some moon go from them... or anything that comes to your mind, this were just a few examples.

Whould be more viable if you have some equipment, ships and modules... and you gradually transfer to that stile of play ?
Using some isk in the beginingbut striving to using less and less ?

I make things from scratch, but reselling (I've heard) can make much better ISK than manufacturing and selling.


Since this is EVE, you can try both (provided you have enough personal time for this sort of exploration).

Yea you can do it but why would you?

It can be done.


Once you do it though you'll be sorry you did.

I decided I wanted to built a freighter once. ISK wise an absolutely terrible idea. I mined all the ore. Went into a wormhole to get the rare stuff. Couldn't get the barge out anymore. POS was pretty expensive too. Talked to all kinds of people for blueprints. Found somebody willing to sell me cheap BPC's. Cos he liked my plan.

I think only you can answer your question m8. But let me share this: I really loved the moment when I clicked "deliver".

I PvP mining barges which drop ore, from which I manufacture Catalysts to PvP more mining barges. It's a perfect closed system.