EVE Alliance Tournament Discussion

The "pre weapons check" comment was absolutely folly, pure and simple. You insult everyone by insisting on that. If the determining factor is that there are good reasons the tournament has to press on, simply stick to that, and do not deviate (or better yet explain). Again, it was fairly insulting to read that comment as if they're supposed to be well versed in determining bugs in the system

I don't really care about the AT, but this notion that rematches will not be held is pretty bullshit. The excuse that "so many other teams rely on the results of each match" is ridiculous. The other teams rely, much more strongly, on the tournament being held and administered properly. This obviously didn't happen, and to have the outcome potentially altered because of technical issues throws the entire result into question for every team still in the running.

There's no reason not to reimburse all ships involved and hold a rematch.

Obviously this massively sucks, apparently we brought 120 less dps than the other team (ironic as we normally bring the most lol)
As soon as the match started there was chatter in local from both teams that the server was screwed -in the future is it possible to freeze the game or something? 1% tidi? Maybe have a precedent that if both captains type "pause" in local - the match is paused /1% tidi'd and then a proper discussion can be had?

There really should be a rematch precedent as well - i can understand resistance to one when there are server issues but one team was massively ahead, but in this case it went down to the dps bar - clearly as even as it could possibly be and huge grounds for an immediate rematch, same bans or not, same ships or not or whatever - obviously this can't be done now but it would be nice if this didnt happen to other teams in the future (at this stage it's unlikely we'll do the AT again - far too much effort put in for it to end like this)

Also the fact that the dmg bar can be modified by heating your modules at the start of the match surely not a good way of measuring dmg - does it also take into account the highest dps drone win?

Good luck to the remaining teams - rooting for you tuskers

FWIW, it looked during the match like damage was being applied server side, but didn't update in the client until targets hit structure and the added visual effects kicked in. This would have affected all UI updates, including the stream overlay, confusing pilots to what was actually going on, but probably didn't change the outcome significantly. It would still have been Golem v Golem at the end with the same tie-breaker.

It's clear from the CREЅT data that, apart from having to re-aggress drones manually, it waѕ actually wоrking fine in the background.
http://null-sec.com/atxii/#/replay/110/0

Why aren't you guys pointing at the real culprit, TEST? They broke the game and caused all these issues, redact their sov or something as a punishment before they lose it themselves again.

TIL having a health bar and a working watch list aren't actually helpful to logi pilots.

I think they're counting on not enough people knowing or caring about what happened.

Not easy to know you need to rep someone who doesnt know he was taking damage- trouser took 6 volleys, getting reps on would have made a difference

I think the general confusion for the duration is much more important. yes, it was on both sides, but it's still not a proper match.

and I'm not sure we would've died - we were burning into those sentries. a few more seconds more of heated mwd could've done it - did in testing a bunch of times.

As a player who started into Eve this year I was super excited to watch the Alliance tournament, but I have to say, the fact that CCP couldn't manage to monitor and understand their own systems enough to understand an issue was going on, then put the entire onus of this onto the players participating in their PR/E-sports event by quoting the TOS at them is just completely unacceptable. I've gone from "wow this is really neat" to "what a complete waste of time", due completely to CCP's lack of technical proficiency matched with an utter disregard for their player base. The match should have been stopped, the issues resolved, then the match restarted, regardless of scheduling issues. Having a TOS statement to fall back on does not equate to quality service, quality management, or customer service, in fact it usually indicates a complete lack of control and direction regarding the response to an issue.

This reeks of not trying at all, at just wanting it to be over, at just not caring one little bit about the actual event going on. CCP's focus was entirely on how many potential/current customers overall were interacting with the event from a PR POV, with not one bit given to the integrity of the event itself.

CCP, you make it so hard to like a game thats hard to like already. You're hands off, its not our responsibility attitude towards the game and the experience the players have has left your player base as low hanging fruit, just waiting to be plucked by someone with a similar game and more fun.

Stahp.