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Caldari wiped out of FW?

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Cearain
Plus 10 NV
#241 - 2014-09-06 17:28:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Cearain
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
Cearain wrote:
X Gallentius wrote:
Cearain wrote:
Try your best to actually win occupancy for about a year and then come back and tell me about the rich strategy of the game.
We've done it twice and I've tried to tell you all about it but you won't listen. Big smile


I listened. Your alt captured over 100 plexes in 2 weeks. Your main didn't even have that many vp during that week.


Why have a dog and wag your own tail? If people allow these toothless alts to operate, they clearly dont care enough about the area....


I'm not interested in chasing alts that will just hide in a neighboring system. If that's your thing then you're playing the right game.

CCP has ignored the core issue with plexing for so long, that the main fw players are now defending alt plexing for the win. Everyone else has walked away from the game.

One thing we do agree on is that very few people care about winning the occupancy war.

Keep spending your time logging in alts and orbitting buttons, if that is fun for you.

Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
ALUCARD 1208
Digital Ghosts
Nourv Gate Security Commission
#242 - 2014-09-06 17:40:12 UTC
Cearain wrote:
IF UR NOT PLAYING THE GAME HOW I THINK IT SHOULD BE PLAYED UR DOING IT WRONG !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Fixed that for ya

BEBOPS ODE TO PERUNGA
X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#243 - 2014-09-06 18:55:12 UTC
Cearain wrote:
X Gallentius wrote:
Cearain wrote:
Try your best to actually win occupancy for about a year and then come back and tell me about the rich strategy of the game.
We've done it twice and I've tried to tell you all about it but you won't listen. Big smile


I listened. Your alt captured over 100 plexes in 2 weeks. Your main didn't even have that many vp during that week.
That's execution of tactics, not the rich strategy part.
Fenris Orion
Strata Victoria
Of Essence
#244 - 2014-09-06 19:12:00 UTC
Cearain wrote:



Try your best to actually win occupancy for about a year and then come back and tell me about the rich strategy of the game



I have done exactly that for over a year and a half now, and I can tell you that you and your crybaby cohorts are utterly clueless. I have helped and at times lead the charge to take and defend systems up and down the eastern front of the Gallente/Caldari war zone. It's what FW is all about, farming alts spending all their time in quite systems are annoying at best, and a completely side-bar subject in terms of FW game content.

Either go somewhere else to cry, or bring yourself to Tama and show us how superior your skills are.... We'll add you to our killboards like everyone else.
Fenris Orion
Strata Victoria
Of Essence
#245 - 2014-09-06 19:19:05 UTC
Yang Aurilen wrote:
Fenris Orion wrote:
Dear god, so much crying and foolishness in this thread.

Taking and especially keeping control of systems is of chief importance to people actively engaged in FW (non-farming-alts). Why!? Because all of our stuff is in stations, and if we loose control of the system we can't use those stations. Ergo: taking and keeping systems is a major effort and generates fantastic PVP opportunities in strategically important systems.

If you missed this concept somewhere along the way, do us all a favor, and go play WOW or something.

I wonder how many CalMil have ships and gear locked up in stations all across the war zone right now... I have a bunch of loot locked up in Tama right now myself, and put up quite a fight trying to disrupt the iHub bash for it. Hilarious fun, btw, killed an Oracle with my Astero before anyone could get to me.

Glad to have active targets again. Bring on the Squid Pasta!


Zero. Black frog and alts exists for a reason. Heck I still have my missioning bomber in innia because I'm too lazy to actually contract it to an alt and fly it out.


You missed the point. Control of stations situated in forward positions close to where the action is allows you to reship quickly to address whatever the enemy is fielding in the area (or when you loose fights, which is inevitable if you're actually playing the game).

We made a push to take Rakapas, for example, to do exactly that. Next on the list was Okkamon, and the residents there put up a great fight.

You can pay someone else to go get your stuff for you, or you can regroup to take it back yourself. Don't be a coward, come and get it.
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#246 - 2014-09-07 00:07:39 UTC
Cearain wrote:
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
Cearain wrote:
X Gallentius wrote:
Cearain wrote:
Try your best to actually win occupancy for about a year and then come back and tell me about the rich strategy of the game.
We've done it twice and I've tried to tell you all about it but you won't listen. Big smile


I listened. Your alt captured over 100 plexes in 2 weeks. Your main didn't even have that many vp during that week.


Why have a dog and wag your own tail? If people allow these toothless alts to operate, they clearly dont care enough about the area....


I'm not interested in chasing alts that will just hide in a neighboring system. If that's your thing then you're playing the right game.

CCP has ignored the core issue with plexing for so long, that the main fw players are now defending alt plexing for the win. Everyone else has walked away from the game.

One thing we do agree on is that very few people care about winning the occupancy war.

Keep spending your time logging in alts and orbitting buttons, if that is fun for you.


I dont agree with you on a single point you have made in the last 2 years. meanwhile, i have won FW twice, and you might have logged in to eve twice...

Stop posting please because you are utterly ignorant, thats as polite as i can put it.
Atezasha
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#247 - 2014-09-07 02:52:44 UTC
U got rekt
Silverbackyererse
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#248 - 2014-09-07 05:55:22 UTC
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
........meanwhile, i have won FW twice......... .



And we can all see those diamonds shining out your arse from 50km away. Roll
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#249 - 2014-09-07 06:44:27 UTC
Silverbackyererse wrote:
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
........meanwhile, i have won FW twice......... .



And we can all see those diamonds shining out your arse from 50km away. Roll






So jelly.
IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome
#250 - 2014-09-07 11:16:47 UTC
The once was a man from Enaluri
Who played Dota2 with a fury

He tried things in Null sec
And it wasn't fun sec


So he came back to FW laugh at really crap alliance names like Spaceship Bebop.









Damn - my limerick doesn't rhyme.
Sad

https://soundcloud.com/ibanezlaney
Irya Boone
The Scope
#251 - 2014-09-07 13:38:52 UTC
How things going for the new leadership of calmil , i mean Pasta
Did they spread new doctrines , new fleets comps , because since they're back calmil is rolling all over the place Straight

so i suppose the game mechanics are ok now ,right ? P


Anyway thank you Pasta for steping for your little brothers.

CCP it's time to remove Off Grid Boost and Put Them on Killmail too, add Logi on killmails .... Open that damn door !!

you shall all bow and pray BoB
Deacon Abox
Black Eagle5
#252 - 2014-09-07 13:42:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Deacon Abox
IbanezLaney wrote:
The once was a man from Enaluri
Who played Dota2 with a fury

He tried things in Null sec
And it wasn't fun sec


So he came back to FW laugh at really crap alliance names like Spaceship Bebop.









Damn - my limerick doesn't rhyme.
Sad

Hey, I didn't choose this alliance name, but you gotta admit sometimes you feel like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDU9FP5_B2M

until you get blowed up P

CCP, there are off buttons for ship explosions, missile effects, turret effects, etc. "Immersion" does not seem to be harmed by those. So, [u]please[/u] give us a persisting off button for the jump gate and autoscan visuals.

Thanatos Marathon
Moira.
#253 - 2014-09-07 13:56:47 UTC
Other times maybe you're just feeling a bit salty

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOmA8LOw258

JUSTK is recruiting
X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#254 - 2014-09-07 15:59:53 UTC  |  Edited by: X Gallentius
IbanezLaney wrote:
So he came back to FW laugh at really crap alliance names like Spaceship Bebop. ..... Damn - my limerick doesn't rhyme.
Sad
Couple things:
1. All you had to do was figure out how to use the word "hop" in your limerick.
2. It may or may not be a crap name, but it's OUR name. So frick off! Big smile


Also, contrary to what many pundits on the forums said would happen, the Caldari militia has respawned.
Terhiss
United Mining and Hauling Inc
The Initiative.
#255 - 2014-09-07 16:04:09 UTC
Theroine
Pew Pew Pirates
#256 - 2014-09-08 00:46:44 UTC
IbanezLaney wrote:
The once was a man from Enaluri
Who played Dota2 with a fury
He tried things in Null sec
And it wasn't fun sec
So he came back to FW laugh at really crap alliance names like Spaceship Bebop.
Damn - my limerick doesn't rhyme.
Sad

Don't be so jelly fella,
What's with the ennui,
Run out of Nutella?
Going caffeine free?
If I must tell ya,
Your forum fu of late
Is rather reprobate
Step up to the plate
or get left behind mate!


Join in on the pew
Cearain
Plus 10 NV
#257 - 2014-09-08 02:08:52 UTC
Fenris Orion wrote:
Cearain wrote:



Try your best to actually win occupancy for about a year and then come back and tell me about the rich strategy of the game



I have done exactly that for over a year and a half now, and I can tell you that you and your crybaby cohorts are utterly clueless. I have helped and at times lead the charge to take and defend systems up and down the eastern front of the Gallente/Caldari war zone. It's what FW is all about, farming alts spending all their time in quite systems are annoying at best, and a completely side-bar subject in terms of FW game content.

Either go somewhere else to cry, or bring yourself to Tama and show us how superior your skills are.... We'll add you to our killboards like everyone else.







You think alts are a sidebar. Meanwhile XG has his alt capturing over 100 plexes in 2 weeks and helping gallente capture all caldari systems.

I'm not interested in arguing with the clueless.

Have fun in your occupancy efforts, where you think the alts are just a sidebar.


Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
Yuri Antollare
Moira.
#258 - 2014-09-08 02:38:24 UTC
I like the summation of your argument there, it's exactly what it was 12 pages ago.


You argue, wall of text and talk past almost everyone individually in Galmill for 13 pages, and your argument is verbatim what it was at the start...

Thats an incredible amount of close mindedness and arrogance even for you.
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#259 - 2014-09-08 03:17:42 UTC
He doesnt care how much pvp people are getting, while people use alts to do things in eve, its broken lol.

He does waver on his main arguments though. 2 main ones are, too little pvp, occupancy is driven mainly by alts.

He will simply ignore that there is more pvp than ever over occupancy, and occupancy is less dominated by alts than it has been since inferno.

This is why i think he is simply a troll. If not, he is so out of touch it serves no purpose reading his posts.
Super Chair
Project Cerberus
Templis CALSF
#260 - 2014-09-08 05:14:47 UTC
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
He doesnt care how much pvp people are getting, while people use alts to do things in eve, its broken lol.

He does waver on his main arguments though. 2 main ones are, too little pvp, occupancy is driven mainly by alts.

He will simply ignore that there is more pvp than ever over occupancy, and occupancy is less dominated by alts than it has been since inferno.

This is why i think he is simply a troll. If not, he is so out of touch it serves no purpose reading his posts.



Who? Big smile