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Aesynil
The Unit...
#1 - 2014-09-06 22:44:02 UTC
Hey all,

I'm looking to restart some of my industry pursuits, and was curious how people have experienced teams so far. I tended to pick a secluded little system and build/research/invent my happy self away from a POS there. However, I can't help but notice that Teams seem to have become relatively important, and getting them to where I want to be singlehandedly has become fairly pricey.

Any advice for adaptations to this? Should I move to a larger hub area to contribute my bids to teams there along with others? I thought secluded would be beneficial due to keeping a low system cost index, but I found I was driving that up very rapidly, just with my own efforts!

Any advice would be appreciated, thank you!
SJ Astralana
Syncore
#2 - 2014-09-06 23:13:38 UTC
Aesynil wrote:
Hey all,

I'm looking to restart some of my industry pursuits, and was curious how people have experienced teams so far. I tended to pick a secluded little system and build/research/invent my happy self away from a POS there. However, I can't help but notice that Teams seem to have become relatively important, and getting them to where I want to be singlehandedly has become fairly pricey.

Any advice for adaptations to this? Should I move to a larger hub area to contribute my bids to teams there along with others? I thought secluded would be beneficial due to keeping a low system cost index, but I found I was driving that up very rapidly, just with my own efforts!

Any advice would be appreciated, thank you!


It's a tough call. I'm in a single-station system with daily jobs running about 1/10 the 14-station system next door and the indices are virtually identical. If you come to realize that the pain of moving every month is too painful due to installation costs ramping up so quickly, it may be better to coat-tail in a good system. You don't even have to contribute anything as the guy who can afford the team will likely pay for it.

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Rowells
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2014-09-06 23:34:03 UTC
It may be best to already have the math for your production line done and then browse availible teams and use the UI to determine if they will benefit you enough to justify the move. Unless you have a massive line set up if wouldn't recommend bidding solo.
Team Bidders
Doomheim
#4 - 2014-09-07 03:27:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Team Bidders
This is the experience from someone who has won 13 teams for the system he lives in:

There is no cooperation in team biddings in high-sec systems; everybody just bids the team he wants.

At first this seems so odd to me because I imagined that a good team will benefit everybody in the system so there should be players actively helping each other, right? But then I realized that everybody (me included) is only ineterested in the team that is most suitable for himself.

For example, my main focus is on T2 ships but I also make fuel blocks on a casual basis. Because fuel block is my sideline business, I never tried to bid a fuel block buidling team. One day, I was so surprised that a fuel block building team showed up in my system. Apparently, someone else whose main business is building fuel blocks has won the team for the system. I then became a "free rider" Smile and enjoyed the benefit of the team. But still, my main focus is on T2 ships.

Is that guy who won the fuel block building concerned with my fuel block manufacuring business? Probably not. He probably has 10 fuel block manufacturing lines running simultaneously. In order to do that, he either has a constant mining operation or is buying directly from a ice mining company (or even companies). By the same token, am I worried about that someone is using my Black Ops building team? No, I am not. Because I once scanned the whole system and found out that I am the only one who has a Advanced Large Ship Assembly Array.

So if you can't afford a team, that's either because your scale of production is too small or your product mix is very diversified. Moving into a hub will probably not increase your chance of winning a team because I don't think you will find a team-bidding partner. If you do find a partner, you may soon find out that you're competing against each other.