Missions & Complexes

No, not really. If you can get a better LP to isk conversion rate for an item you can post on market then it ends up being cheaper to sell the item and buy ammo. Likewise, minerals you get from reprocessing are better off either sold directly or made into something with a higher margin than ammunition.

The whole theory rests in the common fallacy (usually referred to around here as Minerals I Mine are Free or MIMAF) that the economic value of an item is null until it hits the market. This clearly isn't the case; everything has the potential to be sold and so has inherent value. Actions that increase the value of said items are more profitable than simply using said items to avoid market transactions in the first place.

agree. as long as ur willing to loot all that as u go along its essentially free isk.

and everybody uses faction ammo for pvp. the profit margin for your time spent might be lower but the resale value is much higher.

OK, you need 2 mill ISK and 5000 regular Missiles which you build with Minerals gained from reprocessing loot drops. That means the Manufacturing cost needed to build those 5000 regular Missiles has to be added with the LP cost.

Hopefully you get enough Minerals from reprocessing the loot to build those 5000 regular Missiles. If not, then you have to also add in the cost of any missing minerals needed to manufacture those 5000 regular missiles.

After you've manufactured and exchanged those 5000 regular missiles for Faction Missiles, you then have to add in any Broker Fees, Taxes, etc that's associated with selling those Faction Missiles.

Hopefully the total amount of ISK cost is equal to or less than the amount of ISK gained from Bounties. Next subtract that amount from the average Market price and you'll have a good idea of the profit amount.

Anyway, I think I covered everything. Good luck to you.



DMC

I will respectfully disagree about the bounties and looting.

Bounties. I run a mission, I perform the tasks that pay mission reward, the mission bonus, mission lp and I get paid the bounties. Meaning that I do not perform any extra actions to receive bounties, I do not spend any additional time to perform some tasks that give me bounties. Therefore the mission reward and mission bonus and mission lp and bounties are all given to me for the same tasks that I performed and for the same amount of time that spent performing those tasks. Bounties are not extra, they are integral part of the reward that I receive for doing mission. Additionally bounties are far larger than mission reward+mission bonus, I actually run missions for the bounties, the dinky mission rewards and bunuses are not even important to me.

Looting. Looting takes time. Time is money! So loot is not free and therefore the minerals that you get from loot are not free either. 15-30 minutes you spent looting is one l4 mission that you did not run. Take something simple like l4 Gone Berserk, it takes about 10-15 minutes to run, it pays about 10 mil (maybe 8-9 mil after tax). Does the loot that you collected worth 8 mil? Probably not. So you spent 15 minutes collecting loot that is worth 2-3 mil instead of running l4 mission that pays 8 mil. Oh, and to make things even more interesting, Gone Berserk has nice loot too! It is one of those rare (today) missions where every wreck has loot.

Use marauder and loot while you are shooting rats you need to complete the mission. By the time last eom death lord dies in gone berserk, I have most bs wrecks looted (and salvaged).

A valid point, you will hear no argument from me. However. In my specific case, I am lazy. The "playing piano" with the f keys is just not appealing to me. I did that with noctis so I do have experience with it.

Don't forget to add time that spend on bringing noctis to the mission and taking it back to the station.

Do you loot mission pockets and use mission gates to get from pocket to pocket or do you turn mission in and use mission bookmarks to warp directly to your wrecks?

Do you take noctis to loot missions that are one or more jumps away too?

I had a faction mission the other day, against caldari, I had to make 11 jumps to get to the mission location. I did it for the tags since I want to get some galente gear from lp store. Now imagine doing 11 jumps to get there in bs, then jumping 11 jumps back, then switch to noctis, do another 11 jump in noctis to get there, loot and salvage, then do 11 jumps back to the station. Ouch! Since I only need tags, I went there in my raven, deployed mtu, killed the rats, waited for mtu to finish, collected tags, jumped 11 jumps back to the station, turn in the mission. This is sort of special case. The only reason I bothered is the tags.

Ok I see, like not waste time on missions that ably drop loot, and salvage missions lie worlds collide

But I'll be building my own missiles by reprocessing the loot, how would I be spending isk on buying missiles?

Also I'm kind of undecided if I should mission with space lane or Soe...

So, all you should really care about is lp/hour when doing missions.

Avoid things that are like here take 30 mins and get 7k lp, do take things that are make 5k lp in 2 mins.

Amusingly the best missions are the ones where you have to fire the least, ideally avoiding everything and killing either one npc or just one spawn group.


From there focus on finding items with the highest isk/lp ratio.


Profit.

Salvage and bounties are over rated.