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Reimburstment on the loss on large medium and small bubbels
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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#61 - 2014-09-05 13:15:02 UTC
Jugernauth wrote:
its not 10k but 10 mil. I bought around 500 and exspect to make loss off 30 mil a pice. That is around 14 bil. So i stockpiled good yes. Bought at 40 mil average. So its not projected profit loss but actual isk that i had loss


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Petre en Thielles
Doomheim
#62 - 2014-09-05 13:17:47 UTC
Jugernauth wrote:

its not 10k but 10 mil. I bought around 500 and exspect to make loss off 30 mil a pice. That is around 14 bil. So i stockpiled good yes. Bought at 40 mil average. So its not projected profit loss but actual isk that i had loss


If the requirements changed in the other direction, would you petition CCP and give them more ISK?

If not, you are just whiny about making a bad choice.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#63 - 2014-09-05 13:21:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
OP needs to look up the word risk.

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Felicity Love
Doomheim
#64 - 2014-09-05 13:38:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Felicity Love
Jugernauth wrote:

The minerals for a large build went up form about 10 mil to 62 mil then down to 10 again.

I taken a 14 bil loss because i was under the impression that the mineral chance was for ever after the first update.



Here we see the abject failure of the "All In" strategy in playing the market... and ignoring the fact that any particular detail in EVE is always subject to change just won't help your bottom line. Ever.

Take "the hit" in stride... if you truly want to play the big leagues.

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Jugernauth
The Congregation
RAPID HEAVY ROPERS
#65 - 2014-09-05 13:58:58 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Jugernauth wrote:
Rab See wrote:
You made isk when the price went up, all those bubbles you had built beforehand.

Please hand the isk back and we can talk about it.



In the original reimburstment requist to ccp i calculated everything that i made and lost. That ammount i asked. So think that would be fair.


You speculated & lost, you won't get anything back.



I jused data from in game that i think i could have jused because i could not know they where presented by a bug.

Again ppl that payed the wrong amount whit the startingcost did geth reimburst. Same thing bug whit wrong number leads to a loss for a player.
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#66 - 2014-09-05 14:20:10 UTC
Good lord. You didn't understand stuff, you then didn't understand more stuff and as a result you lost isk. Meanwhile, CCPs reimbursement policy is clear. You aren't getting anything back, so either deal with it or quit the game. Those are your two options and they are equally valid.

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Grog Aftermath
Doomheim
#67 - 2014-09-05 14:40:50 UTC
Jugernauth wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Jugernauth wrote:
Rab See wrote:
You made isk when the price went up, all those bubbles you had built beforehand.

Please hand the isk back and we can talk about it.



In the original reimburstment requist to ccp i calculated everything that i made and lost. That ammount i asked. So think that would be fair.


You speculated & lost, you won't get anything back.



I jused data from in game that i think i could have jused because i could not know they where presented by a bug.

Again ppl that payed the wrong amount whit the startingcost did geth reimburst. Same thing bug whit wrong number leads to a loss for a player.



CCP is at fault to some extent with the bug as you based your decisions on that bug.

However, you are also at fault for trying to take advantage of that bug (even though you didn't know it was one), by paying more than the normal market price to secure your stockpile. You took a risk that the information was correct even though it must have seemed suspiciously incorrect.

That's the way I see it anyway.

I'll be surprised if you get anything back.
Talvorian Dex
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#68 - 2014-09-05 15:10:52 UTC
Jugernauth wrote:
Some time ago the mineral juse to build large medium and small bubbels went up allot. After the next patch they went down again.

The minerals for a large build went up form about 10 mil to 62 mil then down to 10 again.

I taken a 14 bil loss because i was under the impression that the mineral chance was for ever after the first update. There where no post to be found anywhere that it was not ment that way and ccp would go chance it back. The mineral price chance was a bug and i think ccp should reimburst my loss.

Hope you can fix this ccp.



Asking for reimbursement for market speculation... Good one! Nice troll post!

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Jugernauth
The Congregation
RAPID HEAVY ROPERS
#69 - 2014-09-05 17:21:33 UTC
Grog Aftermath wrote:
Jugernauth wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Jugernauth wrote:
Rab See wrote:
You made isk when the price went up, all those bubbles you had built beforehand.

Please hand the isk back and we can talk about it.



In the original reimburstment requist to ccp i calculated everything that i made and lost. That ammount i asked. So think that would be fair.


You speculated & lost, you won't get anything back.



I jused data from in game that i think i could have jused because i could not know they where presented by a bug.

Again ppl that payed the wrong amount whit the startingcost did geth reimburst. Same thing bug whit wrong number leads to a loss for a player.



CCP is at fault to some extent with the bug as you based your decisions on that bug.

However, you are also at fault for trying to take advantage of that bug (even though you didn't know it was one), by paying more than the normal market price to secure your stockpile. You took a risk that the information was correct even though it must have seemed suspiciously incorrect.

That's the way I see it anyway.


Yes ccp bugged thats the point. Agree that i should have been more suspicious would take a 50/50 deal om the loss du to split responsibiletie

I'll be surprised if you get anything back.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#70 - 2014-09-05 18:41:55 UTC
Jugernauth wrote:
RubyPorto wrote:
Jugernauth wrote:
Damon Messer wrote:
so you took a gamble on the market and lost isk? is that it OP?


Nope


Fine, we can be technical about it.
You took a gamble on patch speculation and lost ISK.



There was no speculation. Speculation iff you try to predict the future. This was a bugged display off needed materials.


So why did ccp reimburst the ppl that paided the wrong starting price for starting jobs (was also a bug in that same patch)? Same problem it seems to me.......


You speculated that an obvious bug wouldn't be fixed, and expected to profit off it.

You bought items from players. People starting jobs sunk ISK into thin air. Very different when it comes to reimbursement (remember, the reimbursement policy for the server dying only reimburses the modules that got blown up with the ship; anything that drops stays dropped), so to reimburse you they'd have to duplicate ISK.

And again, you were speculating that a massive, unannounced, unreasonable price build cost increase was somehow *not* a mistake.

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Lugia3
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#71 - 2014-09-05 20:49:44 UTC
You speculated, and your investment didn't pay off. QQ.

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