Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Sov / (super)Capital / Jump drive changes needed !

Here is an idea.

SOV Deathmatch

Make program a random event where moons are frozen in a region battle royal style.

Good idea ! WH will have equal status to todays lowsec.

BUMP!
We don't forget CCP.
CHANGES NEEDED!

Supers/ capitals cyno mechanic and bridges - titan and pos ones can be first.

We can break it down into sections which, oddly enough, fits in well with CCPs new development plan.

We start off with addressing the need for empire sprawl. Right now there is a cap on how many players can actively rat in a single system, this currently stands at ten per system. This means groups like ours require vast areas of space to support our members.

"But most of your space is empty!" I hear you cry.

Yes this is true but that is down to another problem which is truesec. You see, the primary form of pve in null sec for your average pilot is anoms and they are tied to truesec. Most systems in null offer worse isk generation than blitzing level 3 missions in highsec with a mach. The best systems in null are on par to slightly worse than can be earned in high sec level 4 mission blitzing.

So we have a double whammy of poor isk income from most of null and the low player cap of 10 per system. This needs to change if we are to shrink the current two blocks from half of EVE each to a single region each and it must happen before any changes to sov.

Simply adding more anoms won't work, not only would a player cap still exist but you would also flood too much isk into the system. Inflation is also why you cannot just add more isk reward to anoms. Anoms must be replaced as the primary pve content and isk generator of nullsec. By far the easiest way to fix this issue is to add mission agents to player outposts. They allow for an unlimited population and null missions provide greater reward than highsec but importantly they will inject far less isk into the system than anoms and will be far easier to implement for CCP than a whole new system.


We then have to deal with capitals. Right now you either have a capital force that can match the two big powers or you are an irrelevant sideshow. Capital issues are all over the place and need several big changes. Firstly, carriers are going to have to lose access to sentries and move to a fighter based platform. Secondly, supers are going to have to lose their E-war immunity however they also need something big in return. Supers and titans must be allowed to dock in outposts. We have to end the bleeding of high SP subs because they are trapped in a space coffin that doesn't see much use. Lastly we must deal with their invulnerability to subcaps, this is covered in the next and most controversial fix.

N+1:

People rightly hate the blob, but why do they hate fighting outnumbered?

Well, its because they cannot hurt it. Right now fleet meat revolves around one simple fact, you must be able to alpha past the logistics of the enemy fleet. If you cannot do this then engaging is pointless. Logistics are going to have to be nerfed if smaller alliances are to stand any chance in null. Equally, it is logistics that makes capital fleets impossible to kill with a subcap fleet. It is going to be painful, it will mean much bloodier fights and chances are I will be among the first to fall in any fleet engagement but if we want to fix null it must happen.

"But you will just farm smaller fleets!" I hear you cry.

This is already happening. We are effectivly untouchable to smaller fleets as they cannot harm us. With a logi nerf in place new tactics such as cheap in your face DPS fleets can dive into the heart of a baltec fleet and inflict a large amount of damage. Sure, we might hold the grid in the end but we could very easily lose the isk war and that is exactly the sort of thing smaller alliances need to boost moral. "Yea we lost that tower but we killed three times more isk worth of stuff".

Sov:

Another need for big balls of ships is the way sov fights are handled. At the moment you fight a handful of timed fights over huge amounts of EHP. This system needs to go. Not only does it mean you need lots of ships to grind down the structures but it also means you need equally or bigger fleets to defend. Remove the ehp and you remove the need for the massive fleets.

The current sov system also lets us dominate huge areas of empty space so long as we can pay the bills. So to end this sov needs to move to residency based. At a stroke you would make at least 80% of the current sov claims drop as all of the unoccupied systems drop. This is by far the most complicated part of the null overhaul and should rightly come last.

Exactly nice summary.
What i am missing is the instant relocation by jump /titan bridges and jump drives that also have to be changed.
Creating few restrictions for this mechanic can help very much to the overall player experience.

Jump bridges :
- no connections between regions
- no connections to system not linked to alliance capitol , or allow only jump bridges to be linked only 1-2 jumps away from alliance capitol ( so one of the JB endpoints have to be near the alliance capitol)

Titan bridges:
- no bridges between regions

Jump drives :
- no jumps between regions.
- spool up timer BEFORE the jump? Even on the pos , the longer you want to jump the longer jump drive have to charge.


Can someone from CCP at least say if they are considering implementation of stuff we are talking here?
Some information about what can we expect could be good.
CSM members are passing informations to their alliance leaders - why all players cannot get this informations?

Great summary of good ideas from whole thread. I like especially the part with L4's in null. This would be an opportuninty to pull PvEers from hisec, risk vs reward and potential recruits base.
But...

So you don't defend them then? If i have ability to move forces fast, i will use it, no matter the size. If i have ability i will bring as many as i can. If you attack with small group (because you don't need huge ball to destroy structure) you would face non-proportional response, because i can. Strenght in numbers.

The only way you can stop us from projecting our power anywhere in EVE is to turn off warpgates entirely.

Why entirely? Goons have sovs in Deklein and Period Basis. How much time would it take to travel BSs fleet beetwen these two regions by gates and how much trough cyno (no clone jump; hypotetical, you can just travel in ceptors)? The summary you've made would be great if we reset null and start everything from day 1. You have right nobody can't stop you from power projecting because your fleets are already there, build, waiting and have ability to be everywhere. I don't think there are any hisec corp or alliances to compete with such power.

About 90 minutes to get anywhere we need to via gates from YA0.

The plan I put forth would infact result in around 80% of the current sov dropping and would make holding those towers harder to defend as we wouldn't have the JB network spanning half of EVE.

Moon goo is a bit of irony in itself. Many think holding a good moon tower means you rake in the isk but in reality they generate about as much as a null ice miner a month (infact, the ice miner could beat it in terms of income). They are not nearly as important as many think and long before titans came around or the balls of capitals of today the null powers were able to hold them and defend them.

I can get behind removing anomalies and replacing it with some type of agent generated PvE system. I don't think Missions is the right way to do it.

Firstly high sec PvE is there so that players can play solo. I don't need to be in communication with ANYONE if I don't want to. I can talk to my agent, do my thing, make my ISK, buy my bling and keep on trucking without saying/typing a word.

Low-Sec PvE (fleet warfare) is very much team/cooperation driven (and it is a great facilitator for PvP).

I think PvE in Null sec needs to be as much team/cooperation driven as possible. Agents should not be housed in a station, they should be hosted in a separate facility in the sovereign system. The agent requests (I don't want to use the word "mission") needs to be extremely difficult/impossible for solo players, but very doable and rewarding for small fleets. Somewhere in between burner missions and incursions. Difficult AI, that requires teamwork and cooperation. The requests should be varied enough that a single "PvE-fit" on a single "PvE ship" is not enough to complete the variety of requests.

The agent should be installed at the corporate level (rather than the allied level), however once initiated, any number of players from different corporations can complete the request. The request difficulty should be based off of total corp members and a ratio of online to total players.

The agent housing needs to be vulnerable to attack, and it needs to be possible to lose your agent, in this way you generate PvP opportunities in the form of truly harassing the ISK source of the significant portion of the system population. As there would be multiple corporations in an alliance, there will be multiple Housing structures in the system, which will generate multiple locations to stimulate PvP.

Thanks for the read!