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Should system security status be dynamic?

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Charax Bouclier
Silvershield Universal
#41 - 2014-09-04 17:42:46 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Charax Bouclier wrote:
OoooOO...exciting. My corp got wardecked and it will be active in 10 hours. Now THIS will change things up! :D


Let me know if you need anything

I like the cut of your jib


I am not sure what to expect. This Alliance has 62 active wars, and 32 pending. At least these guys know what to spend excess ISK on.

Time to man the frigates!
Hengle Teron
Red Sky Morning
The Amarr Militia.
#42 - 2014-09-04 17:43:36 UTC
ok... but what's the gain ?
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#43 - 2014-09-04 17:45:41 UTC
Charax Bouclier wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Charax Bouclier wrote:
OoooOO...exciting. My corp got wardecked and it will be active in 10 hours. Now THIS will change things up! :D


Let me know if you need anything

I like the cut of your jib


I am not sure what to expect. This Alliance has 62 active wars, and 32 pending. At least these guys know what to spend excess ISK on.

Time to man the frigates!


Mercs

Stay out of hubs and off pipes, and they won't bother you. Probably.

Out of curiosity... does the organisation that decced you go by the name of Deadly Fingertips? Or is it Marmite? Those are the only mercs I can think of right now with that many wars...

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#44 - 2014-09-04 17:46:21 UTC
Charax Bouclier wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Charax Bouclier wrote:
OoooOO...exciting. My corp got wardecked and it will be active in 10 hours. Now THIS will change things up! :D


Let me know if you need anything

I like the cut of your jib


I am not sure what to expect. This Alliance has 62 active wars, and 32 pending. At least these guys know what to spend excess ISK on.

Time to man the frigates!



Well feel free to Eve Mail me any questions or ask for advice and Ill do my best.

If you need bolt-holes or some war-funds, Im sure something can be arranged.

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Yarda Black
The Black Redemption
#45 - 2014-09-04 17:47:27 UTC
Inxentas Ultramar wrote:
Yarda Black wrote:
I find this dynamic interesting. I notice something VERY VERY wrong here tho:

The entire idea is restricted to 0.5 to 1.0 systems. Where EVE currently ranges between -1.0 to +1.0

Security being based on the distance away from 1.0 systems. Or actually, that's what I came up with going through maps.

So....

Whats up with this limited scope? Security is either dynamic in EVE or its not right?


See OP's point 3. All the suggestions would affect are CONCORD response times. The suggestions are simply irrelevant to 0.0 space. I personally would see more merit to adding a region in which systems can change the full range (including things like rat and anom quality) treating -0 values as NPC nullsec.


If it only affects CONCORD response time, then I don't see what this has to do with security status. The number in the left upper corner that is. There's no CONCORD in lowsec either for example (which does have a security status like the rest of EVE).
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#46 - 2014-09-04 17:49:06 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Charax Bouclier wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Charax Bouclier wrote:
OoooOO...exciting. My corp got wardecked and it will be active in 10 hours. Now THIS will change things up! :D


Let me know if you need anything

I like the cut of your jib


I am not sure what to expect. This Alliance has 62 active wars, and 32 pending. At least these guys know what to spend excess ISK on.

Time to man the frigates!


Mercs

Stay out of hubs and off pipes, and they won't bother you. Probably.

Out of curiosity... does the organisation that decced you go by the name of Deadly Fingertips? Or is it Marmite? Those are the only mercs I can think of right now with that many wars...

is it us? sir tears gets happy with that button when theres not much going onPirate

Murderers of Negotiable Motivations

=]|[=
Charax Bouclier
Silvershield Universal
#47 - 2014-09-04 17:50:01 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Charax Bouclier wrote:
OoooOO...exciting. My corp got wardecked and it will be active in 10 hours. Now THIS will change things up! :D


10 hours? That was before this thread went up so it wasn't the result of anyone here me thinks.

Mail me in game. I'll refund you the 1 mil CSPA charge for it but, I need you to mail me because I will not remember that I wanted to check and see how I might be able to assist you when I wake up in the morning with a splitting hangover. I have guns and PVP and friends with more guns and PVP. Anyway, mail me so I have a reminder when I log on. If you want some help that is. I offer war assists for free because the pew pew is its own reward.

If I incur any costs, I can extort them from your aggressors in the surrender demands.



Yeah, I had a good chuckle when I asked people what they used alts for, and Mr. Epeen suggested to use one as a forum posting toon. Meh, stuff like this just adds to the fun imo.

I guess I need to read up on the mechanics of this, but it looks like a spam wardec on pretty much any random corp that this Alliance can find.

If this is an opportunity for you guys to have fun, I'd be happy to grant it - I just need to read up on it and get our CEO to request defenders I guess?
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#48 - 2014-09-04 17:52:25 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Charax Bouclier wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Charax Bouclier wrote:
OoooOO...exciting. My corp got wardecked and it will be active in 10 hours. Now THIS will change things up! :D


Let me know if you need anything

I like the cut of your jib


I am not sure what to expect. This Alliance has 62 active wars, and 32 pending. At least these guys know what to spend excess ISK on.

Time to man the frigates!


Mercs

Stay out of hubs and off pipes, and they won't bother you. Probably.

Out of curiosity... does the organisation that decced you go by the name of Deadly Fingertips? Or is it Marmite? Those are the only mercs I can think of right now with that many wars...

is it us? sir tears gets happy with that button when theres not much going onPirate


IDK, but I simultaneously fear and respect you too much to shoot at you so.... if it is, I'm out P

if it was Deadly Fingertips, I have some minor influence there.

Marmite, you can literally just avoid all day long with some really basic tactics that I can help you with.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Charax Bouclier
Silvershield Universal
#49 - 2014-09-04 17:53:06 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Charax Bouclier wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Charax Bouclier wrote:
OoooOO...exciting. My corp got wardecked and it will be active in 10 hours. Now THIS will change things up! :D


Let me know if you need anything

I like the cut of your jib


I am not sure what to expect. This Alliance has 62 active wars, and 32 pending. At least these guys know what to spend excess ISK on.

Time to man the frigates!


Mercs

Stay out of hubs and off pipes, and they won't bother you. Probably.

Out of curiosity... does the organisation that decced you go by the name of Deadly Fingertips? Or is it Marmite? Those are the only mercs I can think of right now with that many wars...


Forsaken Asylum, which has 8 corporate members.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#50 - 2014-09-04 17:55:03 UTC
Charax Bouclier wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Charax Bouclier wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Charax Bouclier wrote:
OoooOO...exciting. My corp got wardecked and it will be active in 10 hours. Now THIS will change things up! :D


Let me know if you need anything

I like the cut of your jib


I am not sure what to expect. This Alliance has 62 active wars, and 32 pending. At least these guys know what to spend excess ISK on.

Time to man the frigates!


Mercs

Stay out of hubs and off pipes, and they won't bother you. Probably.

Out of curiosity... does the organisation that decced you go by the name of Deadly Fingertips? Or is it Marmite? Those are the only mercs I can think of right now with that many wars...


Forsaken Asylum, which has 8 corporate members.


Ah those guys

Yeah Ive had a run in or two with them before

It wasnt a big deal that I can remember

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#51 - 2014-09-04 17:55:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Ralph King-Griffin
Remiel Pollard wrote:

IDK, but I simultaneously fear and respect you too much to shoot at you so.... if it is, I'm out P

if it was Deadly Fingertips, I have some minor influence there.

Marmite, you can literally just avoid all day long with some really basic tactics that I can help you with.

o7

Murderers of Negotiable Motivations

=]|[=
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#52 - 2014-09-04 17:58:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Remiel Pollard
Charax Bouclier wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Charax Bouclier wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Charax Bouclier wrote:
OoooOO...exciting. My corp got wardecked and it will be active in 10 hours. Now THIS will change things up! :D


Let me know if you need anything

I like the cut of your jib


I am not sure what to expect. This Alliance has 62 active wars, and 32 pending. At least these guys know what to spend excess ISK on.

Time to man the frigates!


Mercs

Stay out of hubs and off pipes, and they won't bother you. Probably.

Out of curiosity... does the organisation that decced you go by the name of Deadly Fingertips? Or is it Marmite? Those are the only mercs I can think of right now with that many wars...


Forsaken Asylum, which has 8 corporate members.


They are literally a shell of what they used to be, and they were never really that much to begin with. I'll talk to someone tomorrow. In the meantime, just watch local, don't travel to Amarr or Jita with anything except NPC alts, and watch local. Deny them kills for now.

But yah, they would have decced you randomly. You're probably in Caldari space and they just saw you around and thought, ooh, easy prey. I know their habits pretty well, they had a vendetta against me and a few of my associates for a while. Right up until we started popping their T3s with newbs in destroyer fleets...

Relevant, he dropped corp after that.

Broken
Smashed
Melted

These guys doing all that killing are all from my old alliance, and close friends. FA are on outside my timezone so I can't do much for you myself, personally. But I can get you in touch with those that can. Those whom FA fear.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Charax Bouclier
Silvershield Universal
#53 - 2014-09-04 18:30:39 UTC
Thanks Remiel. I should be fine. This is just a tiny wrinkle and I look forward to making the necessary adjustments in my gameplay. If I lose ships, I'm bound to learn something from it.

One thing that I would ask is some recommended overview set-ups. Sounds like you can DL them through chat (mail links too?) from the last patch. Or, if you folks have some recommended sites with terrific downloadable overviews, that would be great as well.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#54 - 2014-09-04 18:34:01 UTC
ISD LackOfFaith
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#55 - 2014-09-04 19:16:36 UTC
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Celthric Kanerian
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#56 - 2014-09-04 22:54:01 UTC
What a crapload of coding for CCP and insane abuse from the player...
Jur Tissant
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#57 - 2014-09-05 03:11:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Jur Tissant
I like the idea of system sec status changing. Look at Uedema. It's like some sort of outlaw wasteland because it's a 0.5 at a vital chokehold point. If Concord was actually doing their job they would respond to the number of ganks by posting more patrols and responding faster.

On the one hand, this will force gankers to find new chokeholds to camp and make it a more dynamic activity. On the other hand, it will open up 0.6/0.5 systems for them to exploit.
Claud Tiberius
#58 - 2014-09-05 05:22:57 UTC
+1 to dynamic system security status.

I think it would be totally be worth the effort.

Pirate camps and care-bears alike would be forced out of their comfort-zones, alliances forced to negotiate territory with the empires and travel routes becoming safer, or more dangerous thus adding new 'opportunities' in the game.

Once upon a time the Golem had a Raven hull and it looked good. Then it transformed into a plataduck. The end.
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#59 - 2014-09-05 07:30:29 UTC
Claud Tiberius wrote:
+1 to dynamic system security status.

I think it would be totally be worth the effort.

Pirate camps and care-bears alike would be forced out of their comfort-zones, alliances forced to negotiate territory with the empires and travel routes becoming safer, or more dangerous thus adding new 'opportunities' in the game.


Incorrect. They would just end up making their own comfort zones.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#60 - 2014-09-05 13:05:32 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Claud Tiberius wrote:
+1 to dynamic system security status.

I think it would be totally be worth the effort.

Pirate camps and care-bears alike would be forced out of their comfort-zones, alliances forced to negotiate territory with the empires and travel routes becoming safer, or more dangerous thus adding new 'opportunities' in the game.


Incorrect. They would just end up making their own comfort zones.


Well if you made bear activity lower the sec till 0.5 and gank raise it to let's say 0.9 gradually, you would get new fish holes for ganks. Make the variation based on gank value so the bear can't re-up the sec at stupid cost by killing unfit frigs and other related stuff.

It would still be a clusterfuck to code in my opinion tho.