Crime & Punishment

Confirming that Feyd and Cairo are both my alts - This character is badposting all the time as cover for the Devil's Chosen.

This thread here, is exactly what's wrong with eve, bunch of tight up people think they're better than other tight up people.

Either way, this thread is starting to become fun. :P

I'll take over the training corp if you like. I have a 'no docking' policy. They will learn or they will burn.

I'm a bit concerned than an entire corp in a merc alliance is told to dock for a single character. It speaks to both the corp leadership and the alliance leaderships ability to lead. I find it somewhat concerting that the greater alliance outlook is 'they are just our noobs' and trivialize one of their own corps. More worriesome is that it is their training corp they are being dismissive about. I'm not 'in the know' on their alliance structure, but normally a training corp is an alliances future. Minimalizing your future publicly on the eve forums seems kind of.... not good.

Anyway, if you guys want some assistance - hit me up in game.

I try to strike a balance with Lords, between exposing new players to pvp and training them up for merc work, and also trying not to completely stink up the alliance killboard while they are learning. It's a very difficult balancing act to be sure, while not having the mandate to really dirty up the alliance killboard with a 'never dock' Leeroy Jenkins training protocol. Great to hear that works for you though...

I do understand, people are used to the more traditional methods many pvp corps or alliances use, either a) keeping their training corp outside of their alliance to protect the killboards while they go full-Leeroy, or b) only recruiting skilled pvp toons. I'm however proud of the balance we do achieve, both meeting Devils mercenary contracts and making our clients happy, while also bringing many people locked in PVE drudgery over to PVP, and creating content for other players along the way.

It's that holy (unholy?) mix of chocolate with peanut butter that actually makes Lords and Devils unique and special organizations to be part of. IMHO.

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I'm just gonna leave this here..

You have saved me!
From: Faylee Freir
To: Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
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Dude I don't even know where to begin... I've read a **** load of eve related blogs, especially about pirating and ass-hattery.... Yours is the first that really reeled me in and changed me.

Kill: [redacted] (Megathron) Kill: [redacted] (Catalyst)

I just did this tonight... My very first REAL pvp experience against people that shoot back. Yeah the Orca kill was incredible and very entertaining, but these (2) kills are me actually PvP'ing and learning. This is SO MUCH FUN! Thank you so much man for your blog and creating an outlet for me to play like this.

Faylee Freir

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Not to derail the negative folks out there or anything...but I find this work very rewarding.

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I have removed some rule breaking posts and those quoting them. As always I let some edge cases stay.

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Lets be honest with ourselves here... This thread is not really directed towards the alliance as a whole, but at our corp - A noob friendly training corp.

What's comical here is that you see all this wailing and gnashing of teeth about a corp that is mostly filled with people that are inexperienced at consensual pvp. The truth is that I've learned more from Feyd and others in the alliance than I ever have previously in my stints with 0.0, FW, and c4 wormholes. We're learning valuable lessons and getting experience doing things like spiral + tackling, learning to keep your transversal up, multi-tasking, and much more! The other day I actually was successful in combat probing a target that was trying his best to evade capture, which is something that I have refined by scanning bears down.

I think there are many different ways to learn, and to be honest these methods may not appeal to everyone. I love learning in an environment where we are creating content and having fun. Feyd has a strict plan for teaching all of us how to pvp to move on to full-time merc work, and his success is absolutely visible in myself and the progress I've made. I don't think anyone should fault him or other members of our leadership for advising inexperienced players to stay away from someone that is specifically hunting the inexperienced pilots instead of going after people like Raz or Sir Tears. Like I said, Feyd obviously has a method and that doesn't involve throwing ships with abandon at a WT in hopes that we may learn something from it.

Where else can you learn how to PvP while doing this?

This thread is done.

Frigates are not bad ships. Undersized? No. The assault frigate is one of the best ship classes in eve. A gang of them will rip through a fleet of considerable strength when flown in cohesion.

Just my two isk.

I know there are other methods to learn. No one is forcing any of us to stay and learn this way. I'm here to learn how to pvp and eventually move onto solo hunting war targets. I think it is somewhat important to care about your killboard, especially as a merc in training. The alliance killboard is our proof that we can fulfill customer expectations. If we **** up the killboard flying whatever we think we can afford to lose (for some that's a 270m Astarte), then no customer will think were proficient at our job.

Imho, if you never have done any pvp whatsoever.. I really "feel" how to pilot your ship, and learning the mechanics before going balls to the wall is a smart thing.

Maybe an unconvensional approach, but from my point of view... learn how to walk before running.
But it is one approach of many. And it has served Devils since we first started.

I'm not go into any shitthrowing here.. but I do find your post rather ironic.