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I have a question For people that say they will never go to Null or lowsec
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Mirima Thurander
#201 - 2011-12-09 23:27:16 UTC
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:

Or they could simple stop killing everything that moves for no reason.


Do you leave the doors to your house unlocked in the hope that strangers will walk in and maybe leave loose change between your couch cushions?


no but i do leave my door open so i can shoot them when they try to come inside and steal from me

All automated intel should be removed from the game including Instant local/jumps/kills/cynos for all systems/regions.Eve should report nothing like this to the client/3rd party software.Intel should not be force fed to players. Player skill and iniative should be the sources of intel.
Takseen
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#202 - 2011-12-09 23:29:59 UTC
Baaldor wrote:


Actually is it is more like....
NullSecDude: Looking for decent pilots, Null Sec fun and games
HiSecGuy: Sure, but this is what I demand, I am not going to x up for fleet, I expect some type of protective service when I rat or mine, if I lose a ship I expect to be reimbursed and if some one can move my **** from High Sec that would be great.
NullSecDude: Dude, WTF! entitled much?
HiSecGuy: yep


Ahh, so this is a recruitment crisis thing? That makes more sense.
Pryvate Pile
Doomheim
#203 - 2011-12-09 23:33:37 UTC
Takseen wrote:
Baaldor wrote:


Actually is it is more like....
NullSecDude: Looking for decent pilots, Null Sec fun and games
HiSecGuy: Sure, but this is what I demand, I am not going to x up for fleet, I expect some type of protective service when I rat or mine, if I lose a ship I expect to be reimbursed and if some one can move my **** from High Sec that would be great.
NullSecDude: Dude, WTF! entitled much?
HiSecGuy: yep


Ahh, so this is a recruitment crisis thing? That makes more sense.


Pretty good recruiter if he's trawling for hisec miners.
Vertisce Soritenshi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#204 - 2011-12-09 23:33:41 UTC
I have been saying this for a very long time. EvE is not about PvP like most seem to think. It is about whatever you want it to be about. Personally I enjoy the PvP end myself. But I respect that others don't.

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Lyrrashae
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#205 - 2011-12-10 05:45:48 UTC
El Boracho wrote:
Morganta wrote:
exploitation of the addiction mechanic in humans

same principals as with gambling addiction.

and if given a choice between winning and losing, people will always take winning


True but in a sandbox game there is no single definition of winning.


NullSecDude: I am master of this block of space, fear me.

HiSecGuy: Who cares

NullSecDude: You are ignoring 90% of the game, wtf

HiSecGuy: No, I'm just ignoring you. Deal with it.



There. That's more like it.

Ni.
ASadOldGit
Doomheim
#206 - 2011-12-10 06:40:13 UTC  |  Edited by: ASadOldGit
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
...Naturally, PvP does not factor into that equation, since it is based on a whole different reward system.

But as stated above, even PvP'ers need some kind of ISK stream to fund their activites...

So, why not make PvP itself pay out ISK? Give everyone, winner or loser, a "combat activity" fee; if you get a kill, you get an even bigger reward. Also something for assists (logis), but also some way for the FC to reward scouts, those providing fleet bonuses, etc.

Less time farming is more time fighting, right?

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Dbars Grinding
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#207 - 2011-12-10 08:08:20 UTC
You want to remove the only casual group thing in this game? pls go pod yourself.

I have more space likes than you. 
Katowen
#208 - 2011-12-10 08:53:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Katowen
Ana Vyr wrote:
I don't qualify to answer because I'm an industrialist, but let me hazard a guess on this one.
So why do some folks stick to highsec and play solo?

Probably because they play irregularly and don't want to deal with ANY drama about it in their relaxing game playing time. Imagine dealing with work hassles all day, get home and deal with your kids/pets/spouses...and when that magic moment finally comes when you have a spare hour to yourself, you have to deal with the gamers who have more freedom than you do tell you that you suck because you don't play more and help out the corp.

That's why.


That's my reason. :P

Besides, when I want socialism from the others online, I just start a convo in the chat channels and who knows where that can lead for my schedule.

Katowen
Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
#209 - 2011-12-10 14:40:51 UTC
ASadOldGit wrote:
So, why not make PvP itself pay out ISK? Give everyone, winner or loser, a "combat activity" fee; if you get a kill, you get an even bigger reward. Also something for assists (logis), but also some way for the FC to reward scouts, those providing fleet bonuses, etc.


Less time farming is more time fighting, right?[/quote]EVE is not a theme park, so lets not break the economy trying to turn it into one.

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Comrade Commizzar
Eve Revolutionary Army
#210 - 2011-12-10 18:32:47 UTC
Andski wrote:
Opertone wrote:
simple answer - retarted PvPers want to gank you. 10 on 1 fights are typical, this is why you don't go out.


PEOPLE ENGAGE IN PLAYER VERSUS PLAYER COMBAT IN THIS GAME?


A few do Goon. Of course, YOU DON'T.

Goons engage in "Massive Metagaming Online Club" versus Player.Blink
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#211 - 2011-12-10 19:21:20 UTC
Lyrrashae wrote:
El Boracho wrote:
Morganta wrote:
exploitation of the addiction mechanic in humans

same principals as with gambling addiction.

and if given a choice between winning and losing, people will always take winning


True but in a sandbox game there is no single definition of winning.


NullSecDude: I am master of this block of space, fear me.

HiSecGuy: Who cares

NullSecDude: You are ignoring 90% of the game, wtf

HiSecGuy: No, I'm just ignoring you. Deal with it.



There. That's more like it.




I think it's more like this:


Nullsec dude: (man, this sucks, sitting on this gate, I wantz PVP and pew pew) Hey, you stupid carebears, you are missing 90 percent of the game by not leaving highsec!

Highsec dude: (here we go again, they already won nullsec by killing everything that's not blue and they NAPed up to each other, and now they are out of targets. Should I bother? Oh well) Hey, STFU. When you pay my sub, you can tell me how to play.

Nullsec dude: what's the matter, you scared?

Highsec dude: It's a game, stupid. Just because I don't want to pad your killboard, does not make me scared.

Nullsec dude: Awe c'mon, it's not that hard. Anybody can go to 0.0. You just need to have a couple more accounts to use as backup, join an alliance with all of them, zigzag through every system you are in making safe spots so it takes you 5 minutes per jump, and get used to losing ships a lot that you still have to grind ISK to replace in a hostile environment. How is that so hard.


Highsec dude: (holy **** that's not a game, it sounds like a part time job that you pay to work at and not get paid for working at) Uh, forget it. I don't have time for that crap.

Nullsec dude: (damn! He's not as stupid as I am... I need kills!!) Chicken! Pussy!! Carebear!! You are killing EvE!! People like you are the wellspring from which all that is wrong with the world flows!!1!! HTFU and come to null!! (that'll show him - I better keep my second monitor on the EvE client while I surf 4chan cause he'll come out now and I want the lulz).

Highsec dude: Nice try, but I'll pass.


Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#212 - 2011-12-10 19:29:44 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Nullsec dude: Awe c'mon, it's not that hard. Anybody can go to 0.0. You just need to have a couple more accounts to use as backup, join an alliance with all of them, zigzag through every system you are in making safe spots so it takes you 5 minutes per jump, and get used to losing ships a lot that you still have to grind ISK to replace in a hostile environment. How is that so hard.

lol wut
Mirima Thurander
#213 - 2011-12-10 20:02:43 UTC
Let me go ahead and say


i agree with the people that avoid null like the plague because of all the bubble camps and the not blue shoot it thing, and the you cant dock here in less you lick X alliances balls.

before i started playing EvE ( thats 2 years after launch) how i thought null worked and after i started playing how i seen it worked where 2 TOTALLY different ways.


All automated intel should be removed from the game including Instant local/jumps/kills/cynos for all systems/regions.Eve should report nothing like this to the client/3rd party software.Intel should not be force fed to players. Player skill and iniative should be the sources of intel.
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#214 - 2011-12-10 20:07:35 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
I think it's more like this:

[lots of nonsensical rabble]

FTFY.

I mean, god damn, boy.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Steveir
Hagukure
#215 - 2011-12-10 20:07:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Steveir
Well simply I play to relax and enjoy MMOs. Unfortunately that means the odd hour here and there due to real life stuff. This fits in well with my relaxed corp mates (fortunately). As we all know trying to do anything solo of the "harder" elements of Eve will always end in tears.
I live in hope that Eve will implement better Public quest, or battlegrounds, which will suit casual play and pick up groups more.
Mirima Thurander
#216 - 2011-12-10 20:23:43 UTC
Steveir wrote:
Well simply I play to relax and enjoy MMOs. Unfortunately that means the odd hour here and there due to real life stuff. This fits in well with my relaxed corp mates (fortunately). As we all know trying to do anything solo of the "harder" elements of Eve will always end in tears.
I live in hope that Eve will implement better Public quest, or battlegrounds, which will suit casual play and pick up groups more.



Public quest - Incursions

Battlegrounds - Faction Wars



that's what they are really, but FW is broken

All automated intel should be removed from the game including Instant local/jumps/kills/cynos for all systems/regions.Eve should report nothing like this to the client/3rd party software.Intel should not be force fed to players. Player skill and iniative should be the sources of intel.
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#217 - 2011-12-10 20:37:09 UTC
And at some point I'm sure CCP will add some sort of 1v1 2v2 4v4 etc options, maybe even where people can sit in a station and place bets on the outcome.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Eternus8lux8lucis
Guardians of the Gate
RAZOR Alliance
#218 - 2011-12-10 21:06:32 UTC
Well that was a great way to kill some time. Some hilarious posts in there. Herzog got a like or two.Twisted

Have you heard anything I've said?

You said it's all circling the drain, the whole universe. Right?

That's right.

Had to end sometime.
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#219 - 2011-12-10 21:46:13 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
I think it's more like this:

[lots of nonsensical rabble]

FTFY.

I mean, god damn, boy.



You guys play it differently and I must admit, better. Now go gank someone and leave me alone.


Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#220 - 2011-12-10 21:53:19 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Lord Zim wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
I think it's more like this:

[lots of nonsensical rabble]

FTFY.

I mean, god damn, boy.



You guys play it differently and I must admit, better. Now go gank someone and leave me alone.



lol you really think we make multiple safes to fly through each system?