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How Legittimate Are 'API Verified' ISK Doublers?

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James Nikolas Tesla
Tesla Holdings
#1 - 2014-09-04 10:29:40 UTC
I've used two of these people and have received no return even though their API shows they sent money to me. The amount I lost is of no concern to me I just want to confirm whether or not you really can not trust anything in EVE.

CODE is just a bunch of pirates; smart, organized pirates. It doesn't help to rage at them because that is exactly what they want. Dust yourself off and get back on your feet, you don't even have to talk to them.

DJentropy Ovaert
The Conference Elite
Safety.
#2 - 2014-09-04 10:30:48 UTC
James Nikolas Tesla wrote:
I've used two of these people and have received no return even though their API shows they sent money to me. The amount I lost is of no concern to me I just want to confirm whether or not you really can not trust anything in EVE.


You can trust most everything in EVE. How much did they take you for? Simply send me 25% of whatever you lost in game as a show of good faith, and I will gladly replace your loss.

Ethical ISK doubling = best ISK doubling!
Derrick Miles
Death Rabbit Ky Oneida
#3 - 2014-09-04 10:31:22 UTC
How did their API show that they sent money to you?
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#4 - 2014-09-04 10:32:35 UTC
As legitimate as any.
Velicitia
XS Tech
#5 - 2014-09-04 10:36:01 UTC
You can trust people ... but you can only extend that trust so far.

In general "Can I walk/drive to their house, and beat the tar out of them when they screw me over" is a good indicator of how much trust you can give someone.

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Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#6 - 2014-09-04 10:55:00 UTC
the eve litmus test : give me your isk.

the correct response: LOL no

you fail.
heheheh
Phoenix Club
#7 - 2014-09-04 11:02:38 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#8 - 2014-09-04 11:04:42 UTC
If it looks too good to be true it's a scam,
If it looks legit, it's probably a scam that you haven't spotted yet.

Double check everything. Then check it again.

Getting rolled by an isk doubler is the least of your worries Pirate

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#9 - 2014-09-04 11:09:03 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
If it looks too good to be true it's a scam,
If it looks legit, it's probably a scam that you haven't spotted yet.

Double check everything. Then check it again.

Getting rolled by an isk doubler is the least of your worries Pirate

If you think it's a bad scam you can take advantage of, it's a really good scam.

Unless they gave you their api key and you checked yourself it's a scam.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#10 - 2014-09-04 11:13:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
If it looks too good to be true it's a scam,
If it looks legit, it's probably a scam that you haven't spotted yet.

Double check everything. Then check it again.

Getting rolled by an isk doubler is the least of your worries Pirate

If you think it's a bad scam you can take advantage of, it's a really good scam.

Unless they gave you their api key and you checked yourself it's a scam.
Should we tell him about some of the interesting things you can do with the market to indirectly relieve others of their isk?

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Feyd's Survival Pack

Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#11 - 2014-09-04 11:14:12 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
If it looks too good to be true it's a scam,
If it looks legit, it's probably a scam that you haven't spotted yet.

Double check everything. Then check it again.

Getting rolled by an isk doubler is the least of your worries Pirate

If you think it's a bad scam you can take advantage of, it's a really good scam.

Unless they gave you their api key and you checked yourself it's a scam.
Should we tell him about some of the interesting things you can do with the market interface to relieve him of his isk?

Oh now I'm curious.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#12 - 2014-09-04 11:16:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
If it looks too good to be true it's a scam,
If it looks legit, it's probably a scam that you haven't spotted yet.

Double check everything. Then check it again.

Getting rolled by an isk doubler is the least of your worries Pirate

If you think it's a bad scam you can take advantage of, it's a really good scam.

Unless they gave you their api key and you checked yourself it's a scam.
Should we tell him about some of the interesting things you can do with the market interface to relieve him of his isk?

Oh now I'm curious.
I worded it wrong, check the edit. I'm referring to scamming via the market, ie margin trading, price fixing, dodgy contracts based on jacked prices or buy orders etc.

I went back and read it, and thought that looks dodgy as hell, not good.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#13 - 2014-09-04 11:24:42 UTC
What reason do they have to double your ISK in the first place? But no, they're note legitimate, none of them are.

/c

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Hengle Teron
Red Sky Morning
The Amarr Militia.
#14 - 2014-09-04 11:27:27 UTC
wait ISK doublers are not legit ??? Shocked
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#15 - 2014-09-04 11:27:44 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
I worded it wrong, check the edit. I'm referring to scamming via the market, ie margin trading, price fixing, dodgy contracts based on jacked prices or buy orders etc.

I went back and read it, and thought that looks dodgy as hell, not good.

ah, thought there might have been something i wasent aware ofOops.
i dont see the harm in it (other than to the scammers, though its not like the are short on greedy morons clients to deal with)
Grog Aftermath
Doomheim
#16 - 2014-09-04 11:33:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Grog Aftermath
How could isk doublers be legit, if they were legit they would run out of isk.

Also what would be the purpose of giving away isk in this fashion, if they were leaving the game they wouldn't bother with isk doubling.


Isk doubling is a scam, it can be nothing else. You may get small amounts doubled, but that's to try and add credibility to the scam, but you won't get large amounts back. Although you might hear some of their mates/alts claiming that they did.
Victor Andall
#17 - 2014-09-04 11:35:19 UTC
Ahahahahhahahaahhahaahhahahaha, this guy!

I just undocked for the first time and someone challenged me to a duel. Wat do?

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Ka'Narlist
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#18 - 2014-09-04 11:36:44 UTC
Grog Aftermath wrote:
How could isk doublers be legit, if they were legit they would run out of isk.

They could keep buying plex
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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#19 - 2014-09-04 11:37:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Steve Ronuken
James Nikolas Tesla wrote:
I've used two of these people and have received no return even though their API shows they sent money to me. The amount I lost is of no concern to me I just want to confirm whether or not you really can not trust anything in EVE.



Let me guess:

To see 'their API', they sent you to a website, which 'shows' their wallet, with isk coming in and out.



It's a trifle more involved than some ISK scams, but it's still a scam. They control the site, and what shows up on it. Including faked transfers.

If they actually gave you the full api key and code, and you looked at it on api.eveonline.com, that would be legit. anything else can be manipulated.



Nothing player related is entirely legitimate. There are people out there you can probably trust, but they could still turn round and steal from you. Chribba, for example, acts as a Trusted Third Party for super cap sales. He has a reason to not scam you, as it would harm his business. But he still could.

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Misty Allure
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2014-09-04 11:37:55 UTC
Grog Aftermath wrote:
How could isk doublers be legit, if they were legit they would run out of isk...



No, they make their money off the people that can't follow instructions properly. Gah, don't you know anything?
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