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Orca smack or not to Orca smack that is the Question!
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UNICR0N
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2014-09-04 11:26:22 UTC
I have noticed that several people have used the orca via jita undock or any other HUB to take aggro with their say (tanked oracle) and then once aggroed they switch ships in the orca and proceed to whoop pod.

So my Question is should the Orca take aggro for helping via third party by letting its services be used?
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#2 - 2014-09-04 11:30:45 UTC
no, simply because the status would be flaged by the actions of the "bad man" rather than the pilot

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UNICR0N
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2014-09-04 11:31:51 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
no, simply because the status would be flaged by the actions of the "bad man" rather than the pilot


Bah i see
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#4 - 2014-09-04 11:39:29 UTC
UNICR0N wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
no, simply because the status would be flaged by the actions of the "bad man" rather than the pilot


Bah i see

think about it

Twisted" hay dude , can i use your orca?"

Bear"what for?"

Twisted"im just dropping this off, you still have that assault frigate?"

Bear"yeah go ahaid and take it"

Bear"wtf why am i suspect !?"

Bear*align align align align align align align align align align align align ..........tackle

Pirate"lol, some dumbass went suspect in an orca lol nube"

Bear"i hate you"

Twisted"i know"

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Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#5 - 2014-09-04 13:33:43 UTC
Why not just make it so that you can't pull a ship from a non-suspect orca while you have a suspect flag?

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Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#6 - 2014-09-04 13:35:48 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
Why not just make it so that you can't pull a ship from a non-suspect orca while you have a suspect flag?


Why should a pirate corp be penalised unfairly?

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Sara Tosa
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#7 - 2014-09-04 13:39:32 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
UNICR0N wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
no, simply because the status would be flaged by the actions of the "bad man" rather than the pilot


Bah i see

think about it

Twisted" hay dude , can i use your orca?"

just stop letting random guys use your orca, problem solved.
Sara Tosa
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#8 - 2014-09-04 13:40:37 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Lucas Kell wrote:
Why not just make it so that you can't pull a ship from a non-suspect orca while you have a suspect flag?


Why should a pirate corp be penalised unfairly?

because its a pirate corp, its fair by definition.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#9 - 2014-09-04 13:46:28 UTC
Sara Tosa wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Lucas Kell wrote:
Why not just make it so that you can't pull a ship from a non-suspect orca while you have a suspect flag?


Why should a pirate corp be penalised unfairly?

because its a pirate corp, its fair by definition.


No it isn't. It's the opposite.

And of course, no one but pirates ever goes suspect, right?

Right?

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#10 - 2014-09-04 13:47:04 UTC
Sara Tosa wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
UNICR0N wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
no, simply because the status would be flaged by the actions of the "bad man" rather than the pilot


Bah i see

think about it

Twisted" hay dude , can i use your orca?"

just stop letting random guys use your orca, problem solved.

thers an implication that they know each other,
who the **** lets randoms into their orca?

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Sara Tosa
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#11 - 2014-09-04 14:23:01 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Sara Tosa wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Lucas Kell wrote:
Why not just make it so that you can't pull a ship from a non-suspect orca while you have a suspect flag?


Why should a pirate corp be penalised unfairly?

because its a pirate corp, its fair by definition.


No it isn't. It's the opposite.

by Royal decree all and every pirate has to be hung by the neck till death ensue.
so wathever its fair.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#12 - 2014-09-04 14:24:13 UTC
Sara Tosa wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Sara Tosa wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Lucas Kell wrote:
Why not just make it so that you can't pull a ship from a non-suspect orca while you have a suspect flag?


Why should a pirate corp be penalised unfairly?

because its a pirate corp, its fair by definition.


No it isn't. It's the opposite.

by Royal decree all and every pirate has to be hung by de neck till death ensue.
so wathever its fair.


*Holds up Letter of Marque"

I be a Privateer. I hold the mark of The Crown, by Godde

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Kristalll
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#13 - 2014-09-04 14:31:13 UTC
Is nobody going to point out that you can't switch ships in an Orca if you have an aggression timer?

Switching from the orca is the same as docking and switching ships, just with less environment loading.

Next thing we know, OP is going to as for the station to go suspect.

“Die trying” is the proudest human thing.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#14 - 2014-09-04 14:37:30 UTC
Kristalll wrote:
Is nobody going to point out that you can't switch ships in an Orca if you have an aggression timer?

Switching from the orca is the same as docking and switching ships, just with less environment loading.

Next thing we know, OP is going to as for the station to go suspect.


That would be funny

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Mochalatte
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
#15 - 2014-09-04 14:43:07 UTC
It's neat to watch people use an neutral Orca at undock to swap ships out from their rifter to their Tech III bling and rekt the noobies they are dueling with.. no need to dock/undock in different ship even. Just quick swap and blap. "Hey i bet i can blap that on station Rifter that is suspect in my tempest. WTF I lost lock, oh a Proteus!! Oh wait, I'm aggressed and can't dock my mission boat." Pirate
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#16 - 2014-09-04 14:47:49 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
Why not just make it so that you can't pull a ship from a non-suspect orca while you have a suspect flag?

Because there's no reason to.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#17 - 2014-09-04 14:50:45 UTC
Mochalatte wrote:
swap ships out from their rifter to their Tech III bling


Guffaw

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Mochalatte
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
#18 - 2014-09-04 14:52:14 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Mochalatte wrote:
swap ships out from their rifter to their Tech III bling


Guffaw


right.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#19 - 2014-09-04 15:08:56 UTC
Kristalll wrote:
Is nobody going to point out that you can't switch ships in an Orca if you have an aggression timer?

Switching from the orca is the same as docking and switching ships, just with less environment loading.

Next thing we know, OP is going to as for the station to go suspect.

Spoilsport

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Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#20 - 2014-09-04 15:09:17 UTC
Mochalatte wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Mochalatte wrote:
swap ships out from their rifter to their Tech III bling


Guffaw


right.


It is right.

T3 is hardly a blingy ship these days.

Glorified, slightly more expensive HACs.

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
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