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Caldari wiped out of FW?

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Irya Boone
The Scope
#181 - 2014-09-04 01:22:21 UTC
ah thank go pasta came to save caldari , i hope you won't cyno for CFC ...because you know ... the old calmil ... Roll

CCP it's time to remove Off Grid Boost and Put Them on Killmail too, add Logi on killmails .... Open that damn door !!

you shall all bow and pray BoB
Zazu Prota
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#182 - 2014-09-04 01:35:13 UTC
Irya Boone wrote:
ah thank go pasta came to save caldari , i hope you won't cyno for CFC ...because you know ... the old calmil ... Roll


Is this english ? Question
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#183 - 2014-09-04 01:49:22 UTC
Zazu Prota wrote:
Irya Boone wrote:
ah thank go pasta came to save caldari , i hope you won't cyno for CFC ...because you know ... the old calmil ... Roll


Is this english ? Question


All gallente are french!
Squatdog
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#184 - 2014-09-04 04:42:07 UTC
Irya Boone wrote:
Squatdog wrote:


Once the US TZ blob disbanded, the remaining Gals got completely slaughtered to the point where they ran away and Ladi was deplexed from 22% to stable. Then the blob returned and peaked at 150+ for the ihub bash.



Bad messenger :reason why no one defend ladistier could be that all was attacking it with alts.


Humm guys get your story in phase .. one says lad was defended and the defenders slaughtered galmil , and the other one say no one defended Lad ... so who to believe , and i want to believe in someone :(

Anyway , still want to have the number of active pilots in galmil and calmil or now that some 0.0 alliance come aboard on your side it's not relevant now? ( but it was 1 week ago)

still want to fix the mechanics ? ^^


It was defended literally by two people.

Which was more than enough until Gallente started blobbing with fleets of 30+
Silverbackyererse
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#185 - 2014-09-04 05:12:35 UTC
Squatdog wrote:


It was defended literally by two people.



Same number that took it back from Irya's Tipiaks last time as I recall.

Sup Irya? Vive La Distier!
Rahelis
Doomheim
#186 - 2014-09-04 06:47:11 UTC
What many bros here do not realize:

FW needs a working inner system to have healthy corps that want to fight.


There is nothing remotely working in FW - it is getting the null sex stagnation sickness - because of poor game design.
May Arethusa
Junction Systems
#187 - 2014-09-04 06:54:19 UTC
Ah, the bluster and bravado in this thread warms my heart.

Congratulations by the way.

Admitting defeat is never easy, but drawing a line and withdrawing once it had been crossed was probably the one good decision CalMil made in this whole affair. I can only hope everyone higher up the chain learned as much as I did about our weaknesses and flaws as a Militia.

As far as the mechanics being broken goes, I couldn't really think of a better situation than this to put that theory to the test. FW certainly needs a lot of work, but we're in an ideal position to see just how much of an impact the plexing changes have had. I'll be interested in seeing if one of our upcoming mini-expansions attempts to overhaul the whole FW system in the not too distant future.
Rahelis
Doomheim
#188 - 2014-09-04 07:51:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Rahelis
Admiting defeat is easy.


None can win all time - it would be extremly boring to autowin.


Strange thing in EVE: the players want to autowin - that leads to stagnation, like in null sex.


Success without risk is simply not worth playing.


If the game mechanics are worth it there is still an incentive to fight if you loose- adaption is the base skill of combat.


There is nothing in FW that is worth fighting for - FW is FF, faction farming.


The problem with autowin is - our have none to play/ fight with.


So game design is about balance.
RonPaul Rox
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#189 - 2014-09-04 08:02:29 UTC
Gorski Car wrote:
Dont worry we got this caldari. Tama now warzone next


whatever, im just glad we'll have fights again

http://imgur.com/EGjYLSL
Irya Boone
The Scope
#190 - 2014-09-04 08:11:03 UTC
Silverbackyererse wrote:
Squatdog wrote:


It was defended literally by two people.



Same number that took it back from Irya's Tipiaks last time as I recall.

Sup Irya? Vive La Distier!



ahahah need something to fix the memories :)
yep 2 proud feloow calmil defended Lad ... ok you got me on this one , you won Roll

hope i gonna see you again in a firetail/daredevil that works fine this time ^^

CCP it's time to remove Off Grid Boost and Put Them on Killmail too, add Logi on killmails .... Open that damn door !!

you shall all bow and pray BoB
Super Chair
Project Cerberus
Templis CALSF
#191 - 2014-09-04 09:34:51 UTC
Every page on this thread is much like a year of Brittany spears career, less and less entertaining and more desperate with each one Big smile
Marc Callan
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#192 - 2014-09-04 11:25:34 UTC
One thing I will note: people get burned out from constant combat. I've noticed it in Real Life, in null, and in Black Rise. Rousing victories do tend to mitigate that, but crushing defeats will exacerbate it. That's just human psychology.

As for the end of the recent campaign, at the risk of invoking Godwin's Law, it sounds like it somewhat resembled the end of the Battle of France in World War II - specifically, Dunkirk. Was Operation Dynamo unfair to the Wehrmacht?

"We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be." - Kurt Vonnegurt
Fourteen Maken
Karma and Causality
#193 - 2014-09-04 13:40:09 UTC
Marc Callan wrote:
One thing I will note: people get burned out from constant combat. I've noticed it in Real Life, in null, and in Black Rise. Rousing victories do tend to mitigate that, but crushing defeats will exacerbate it. That's just human psychology.

As for the end of the recent campaign, at the risk of invoking Godwin's Law, it sounds like it somewhat resembled the end of the Battle of France in World War II - specifically, Dunkirk. Was Operation Dynamo unfair to the Wehrmacht?



http://themittani.com/content/20-inside-failure-cascade

I think that pretty much sums up what happened to Calmil.

Quote:
Defenses Against Cascade:

The best defense against a cascade that I have discovered is having a monolithic alliance structure, where the 'alliance' amounts to one corporation. It is much harder to put a corporation into a cascade than it is an alliance, because CCP has structured corporations as dictatorships with one absolute authority. Alliances have competing CEOs and a variety of different interests; the monolithic corporation may still have some amount of infighting and scheming, but much less than the more common oligarchy. The only example of a monolithic alliance that I know of is Goonswarm, which is the Goonfleet corporation, plus several much smaller member corporations. Rather than having an oligarchy and shared power between a number of member corporation CEOs, the monolithic alliance has only one leader, and the consent or membership the ancillary corporations (while helpful) is not strategically necessary.

It is also helpful to have an ethnic, national or cultural identity outside of EVE to bind the pilots to identifying with the alliance. There are a number of ethnic organizations in EVE, and these tend to be more resistant to cascade than non-ethnic organizations. The smaller the ethnic group or more isolated the language, the better a defense against cascade there is. Right now, Russian and German players have a number of alliances which they could join, so the need to stick to a particular alliance is minimal. There is only one Polish alliance, by contrast, and perhaps two Hungarian alliances. Those pilots are very invested in their alliance's health.

In practice, this means that a monolithic or ethnic/national/cultural alliance can be repeatedly brought to a state of helplessness, but it is very hard to shift pilot identification and induce collapse.


should be interesting reading for calmil
Adrie Atticus
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#194 - 2014-09-04 14:14:10 UTC
Irya Boone wrote:
ah thank go pasta came to save caldari , i hope you won't cyno for CFC ...because you know ... the old calmil ... Roll


We won't drop via a pasta cyno unless they provide at least a super we can kill, preferably theirs.
Capqu
Half Empty
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#195 - 2014-09-04 14:17:46 UTC
TAMA STATUS: CALDARI

CALDARI STATUS: #1

NO BRAKES ON THE CALDARI TRAIN

UP NEXT: SUJARENTO

GALLENTE PLEBS COWER IN THEIR STAGING

"YOU'LL NEVER TAKE TAMA" - GALLENTE HEAD FC PREGUNA IN TAMA LOCAL 2 DAYS AGO

GLORY TO THE STATE

PEACE THROUGH POWER

CALDARI PRIDE WORLD WIDE

CoolCoolCoolAttentionAttentionAttentionAttentionBlinkBlinkBlinkBlinkBlinkBlinkBlinkBlinkBlinkBlinkBearBearBearBearCoolCoolCool


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5tVbVu9Mkg
Theophilas
Zero Fun Allowed
xqtywiznalamywmodxfhhopawzpqyjdwrpeptuaenabjawdzku
#196 - 2014-09-04 14:24:37 UTC
why shrek is **** why shrek is ****
El Space Mariachi
Zero Fun Allowed
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#197 - 2014-09-04 14:28:21 UTC  |  Edited by: El Space Mariachi
watch as the galcucks cower in fear while bulldari strongmen culturally enrich their systems

Adrie Atticus wrote:
Irya Boone wrote:
ah thank go pasta came to save caldari , i hope you won't cyno for CFC ...because you know ... the old calmil ... Roll


We won't drop via a pasta cyno unless they provide at least a super we can kill, preferably theirs.


we are glad THE BASTION, the CFC's elite rapid deployment wing, lead by Grand Vizier Carnernos on behalf of their Suzerain The Mittani are willing to help but their aid isn't needed

gay gamers for jesus
mr Oll
Zero Fun Allowed
xqtywiznalamywmodxfhhopawzpqyjdwrpeptuaenabjawdzku
#198 - 2014-09-04 14:30:20 UTC  |  Edited by: mr Oll
#FreeHeth

#CaldariVictor


We must secure the sov of our people and a future for Caldari children
emAugust
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#199 - 2014-09-04 14:40:21 UTC  |  Edited by: emAugust

  1. I came to chew bubblegum and kick cuckmil ass and I am all outta bubblegum.

    2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZAPtFRpuu8

    Quote:
    THE CALDARI WAR MACHINE MARCHES ON.


    http://i.imgur.com/ccusjJa.jpg


    #CAL PRIDE WORLD WIDE



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BODY & BLOOD.
X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#200 - 2014-09-04 15:01:53 UTC
Rahelis wrote:
There is nothing in FW that is worth fighting for ..
There is nothing in this game worth fighting for - unless you decide it's worth it.