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Problematic PI Glitch/Exploit
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Xenuria
#1 - 2011-12-10 18:23:16 UTC
Power Grid Glitch

Description: Changing the location of extractor heads on an extractor unit while still maintaining the same amount of extractor heads causes an error message saying that this would overload the power grid. This occurs even if there is more than enough power grid to add an extra extractor head.

Reproduction:
Command Center upgrades 4
Planetology 3

Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehNKnu-kCiQ

Exploitable: Maybe, Not sure yet...


Personal Note: This will be the second time I have exposed the horrible truth about CCP and their broken creation known as Planetary Interaction. As seen in this video this glitch is literally preventing me from doing my planet stuff. Even when removing almost all the extractor heads I still get the same error message saying my powergrid is to jacked.

Request: I would like one of the following gratuities in exchange for my continued service to CCP in bringing them reproducible bug with comprehensive reports.


  • A Hot Pink Planet that is named after me
  • An isk reward for every bug reported by me and confirmed by CCP
  • Skill points to spend

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Morganta
The Greater Goon
#2 - 2011-12-10 18:31:15 UTC
0/10 for calling a bug an exploit to gain attention
Galadriel Vasquez
Project Omega Industries
#3 - 2011-12-10 18:33:18 UTC
Was that your first attempt to deploy a program after Crucible? Are your links upgraded ones as in pre-Crucible? maybe delete and re-deploy your links? Failing that fire all your materials to the Customs Office - delete all buildings and then build them again? Do not delete your Command Center however :)

I am quite baffled and just throwing you some ideas - i am clueless really.....

I have tin foil hat trained to 5.
Xenuria
#4 - 2011-12-10 18:34:03 UTC
Morganta wrote:
0/10 for calling a bug an exploit to gain attention


Well by definition a bug like this can be considered an exploit because you are getting something that other players would not get who are not experiencing this phenomenon. This can give them an unfair dis-advantage as opposed to the normal disadvantage of PI in high sec space.

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People's Republic ofChina
My Other Capital Ship is Your Mom
#5 - 2011-12-10 18:34:17 UTC
Xenuria wrote:

  • A Hot Pink Planet that is named after me


    • This one is best imo.
    Morganta
    The Greater Goon
    #6 - 2011-12-10 18:36:23 UTC
    Xenuria wrote:
    Morganta wrote:
    0/10 for calling a bug an exploit to gain attention


    Well by definition a bug like this can be considered an exploit because you are getting something that other players would not get who are not experiencing this phenomenon. This can give them an unfair dis-advantage as opposed to the normal disadvantage of PI in high sec space.


    what are you getting that other players are not? an error message?

    what's the sell price in jita for that?


    really, I don't seem to see where you claim some sort of benefit to this state
    Xenuria
    #7 - 2011-12-10 18:38:02 UTC
    Morganta please re-read what I said...

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    Morganta
    The Greater Goon
    #8 - 2011-12-10 18:41:17 UTC
    Xenuria wrote:
    Morganta please re-read what I said...


    if I didn't see it the first ten times.....

    why don't you explain how its an exploit and how it gives someone an advantage, or is this an exploit by proxy whereas you are being exploited by people without the bug?

    really, I see you saying that if you move heads you get an error message
    Xenuria
    #9 - 2011-12-10 18:44:04 UTC
    Morganta wrote:
    Xenuria wrote:
    Morganta please re-read what I said...


    if I didn't see it the first ten times.....

    why don't you explain how its an exploit and how it gives someone an advantage, or is this an exploit by proxy whereas you are being exploited by people without the bug?

    really, I see you saying that if you move heads you get an error message


    It's an Exploit because it provides an unfair Dis-Advantage to the people who experience it in comparison to the people who do not experience it.

    CSM 12 Candidate
    Morganta
    The Greater Goon
    #10 - 2011-12-10 18:44:52 UTC
    Xenuria wrote:
    Morganta wrote:
    Xenuria wrote:
    Morganta please re-read what I said...


    if I didn't see it the first ten times.....

    why don't you explain how its an exploit and how it gives someone an advantage, or is this an exploit by proxy whereas you are being exploited by people without the bug?

    really, I see you saying that if you move heads you get an error message


    It's an Exploit because it provides an unfair Dis-Advantage to the people who experience it in comparison to the people who do not experience it.



    I think you stuck your monocle in too far
    Galadriel Vasquez
    Project Omega Industries
    #11 - 2011-12-10 18:50:20 UTC
    I just spat coffee over my screen - i lolled hard.Lol

    I have tin foil hat trained to 5.
    Taedrin
    Federal Navy Academy
    Gallente Federation
    #12 - 2011-12-10 18:52:20 UTC
    Xenuria wrote:
    Morganta wrote:
    Xenuria wrote:
    Morganta please re-read what I said...


    if I didn't see it the first ten times.....

    why don't you explain how its an exploit and how it gives someone an advantage, or is this an exploit by proxy whereas you are being exploited by people without the bug?

    really, I see you saying that if you move heads you get an error message


    It's an Exploit because it provides an unfair Dis-Advantage to the people who experience it in comparison to the people who do not experience it.



    Exploits by definition only grant the one using them a benefit. As such, this would only be an exploit if you could cause this to happen to someone else.

    If it doesn't give you an advantage/benefit, then it is just a bug. I.E. when the overview malfunctions and stops updating properly, it is not called an "overview exploit", it's called an "overview bug". When POSes start shooting blues randomly after a patch, it's not called an exploit, it's called a bug.

    Anyways, revealing bugs and exploits on the forums isn't allowed, so you might want to edit your post. File a bug report if you want CCP to know about it.
    Xenuria
    #13 - 2011-12-10 18:58:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Xenuria
    Taedrin wrote:
    Xenuria wrote:
    Morganta wrote:
    Xenuria wrote:
    Morganta please re-read what I said...


    if I didn't see it the first ten times.....

    why don't you explain how its an exploit and how it gives someone an advantage, or is this an exploit by proxy whereas you are being exploited by people without the bug?

    really, I see you saying that if you move heads you get an error message


    It's an Exploit because it provides an unfair Dis-Advantage to the people who experience it in comparison to the people who do not experience it.




    Anyways, revealing bugs and exploits on the forums isn't allowed, so you might want to edit your post. File a bug report if you want CCP to know about it.


    Last time I checked their was an entire subform dedicated to bugs and bug reporting. The only problem is nobody uses it...

    I also already submitted a bug report citing this thread and linking the youtube video of how to reproduce the bug.

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