EVE General Discussion

Most of the time, it's a tug-of-war. On some rare occasions, it goes all to one side(I think on the Gal-cal side it's happened 4 times in all), but for the most part there's a front that moves back and forth. Just like in a land-war.


An opinion you are more than welcome to have. And I have mine. Likewise, I never suggested that there is a quickfix. No, I merely stated that N+1 is a problem.

Five years ago a five thousand member alliance could hold sov with ease, and without a blue list covering half of eve.. Heck, a two-thousand member alliance could do it. Today, a ten thousand member coalition would be found wanting as anything but a content farm. I think that's a problematic trend. That's an opinion, time will tell If I'm right, though I think it has already begun to do just that.

We can break it down into sections which, oddly enough, fits in well with CCPs new development plan.

We start off with addressing the need for empire sprawl. Right now there is a cap on how many players can actively rat in a single system, this currently stands at ten per system. This means groups like ours require vast areas of space to support our members.

"But most of your space is empty!" I hear you cry.

Yes this is true but that is down to another problem which is truesec. You see, the primary form of pve in null sec for your average pilot is anoms and they are tied to truesec. Most systems in null offer worse isk generation than blitzing level 3 missions in highsec with a mach. The best systems in null are on par to slightly worse than can be earned in high sec level 4 mission blitzing.

So we have a double whammy of poor isk income from most of null and the low player cap of 10 per system. This needs to change if we are to shrink the current two blocks from half of EVE each to a single region each and it must happen before any changes to sov.

Simply adding more anoms won't work, not only would a player cap still exist but you would also flood too much isk into the system. Inflation is also why you cannot just add more isk reward to anoms. Anoms must be replaced as the primary pve content and isk generator of nullsec. By far the easiest way to fix this issue is to add mission agents to player outposts. They allow for an unlimited population and null missions provide greater reward than highsec but importantly they will inject far less isk into the system than anoms and will be far easier to implement for CCP than a whole new system.


We then have to deal with capitals. Right now you either have a capital force that can match the two big powers or you are an irrelevant sideshow. Capital issues are all over the place and need several big changes. Firstly, carriers are going to have to lose access to sentries and move to a fighter based platform. Secondly, supers are going to have to lose their E-war immunity however they also need something big in return. Supers and titans must be allowed to dock in outposts. We have to end the bleeding of high SP subs because they are trapped in a space coffin that doesn't see much use. Lastly we must deal with their invulnerability to subcaps, this is covered in the next and most controversial fix.

N+1:

People rightly hate the blob, but why do they hate fighting outnumbered?

Well, its because they cannot hurt it. Right now fleet meat revolves around one simple fact, you must be able to alpha past the logistics of the enemy fleet. If you cannot do this then engaging is pointless. Logistics are going to have to be nerfed if smaller alliances are to stand any chance in null. Equally, it is logistics that makes capital fleets impossible to kill with a subcap fleet. It is going to be painful, it will mean much bloodier fights and chances are I will be among the first to fall in any fleet engagement but if we want to fix null it must happen.

Sov:

Another need for big balls of ships is the way sov fights are handled. At the moment you fight a handful of timed fights over huge amounts of EHP. This system needs to go. Not only does it mean you need lots of ships to grind down the structures but it also means you need equally or bigger fleets to defend. Remove the ehp and you remove the need for the massive fleets.

The current sov system also lets us dominate huge areas of empty space so long as we can pay the bills. So to end this sov needs to move to residency based. At a stroke you would make at least 80% of the current sov claims drop as all of the unoccupied systems drop. This is by far the most complicated part of the null overhaul and should rightly come last.

Well put.


Were it up to me™ The smaller the ship the less ships can lock it up before locks on the ship start becoming unstable (too much noise in the tracking system) and falling off.

And also, I would drop ALL SOV mechanics. They seem arbitrary and dumb on the "capture the flag" level. I would leave it all up to the players.

Dumping all SOV Mechanics might seem radical, but that would be the only true fix to what is essentially "player defined space" - beyond that anything can happen.

So... you read all that and came out with "lets massively buff logistics"?

Its been dying for over ten years now! Oh no!

At this rate it'll likely keep dying for another ten years or so!

I'm scared. :(

Oddly enough, I look at all the people with the most "friends" as the biggest losers in the game. The sheer boredom and lack of targets must be maddening. It's no wonder they're not signing in.

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