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Star Brightness Slider

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Ines Tegator
Serious Business Inc. Ltd. LLC. etc.
#1 - 2014-09-03 03:54:14 UTC
Just came back from a break (Hi) and undocked. Big mistake.

The new star graphics are gorgeous. They are also so bright that they cause me headaches. Real ones. IRL. The kind that cause actual pain. With, like, painful feelings and stuff.

To top it off, I can't look away anymore because the flares have a much wider angle now; so basically 30% of the entire sky I'm not allowed to look at. It used to be like one screen's worth, now I can't look within 2 or sometimes 3 screens (depends on the star system).

CCP: YOUR GAME IS NOW CAUSING ME PHYSICAL PAIN.

Google shows me requests on the same topic going back to at least 2008, probably earlier. Fix it. Seriously. Put in a brightness/flare/contrast slider for star lens flares.
iu'ra
Criterion.
Pandemic Legion
#2 - 2014-09-03 04:52:36 UTC
If we could have more blue stars or an option like this then I would be so happy. I find that fights at the sun are near unbearable unless my camera is faced away from it.
Jur Tissant
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2014-09-03 05:40:36 UTC
Ines Tegator wrote:

CCP: YOUR GAME IS NOW CAUSING ME PHYSICAL PAIN.


I guess they figured HTFU should apply to your real life as well.

It'd be a nice setting if this is actually an issue for some folks.
Celthric Kanerian
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2014-09-03 05:43:18 UTC
This is why you don't play EVE on 42'inch TV
Ines Tegator
Serious Business Inc. Ltd. LLC. etc.
#5 - 2014-09-03 06:35:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Ines Tegator
Celthric Kanerian wrote:
This is why you don't play EVE on 42'inch TV


I use 2 19" 4:3 at 1024x1280. My hardware is kinda old.

It has more to due with, well, stuff. I get the same problems with lights at night. The contrast of light/dark is just way too high.
Komodo Askold
Strategic Exploration and Development Corp
Silent Company
#6 - 2014-09-03 09:56:33 UTC
I would suggest you to try to lower your screen's brightness. Although that might make other things more difficult to see. If that is not a solution for you, then the "Star Brightness Slider" would be a good idea. I suggest you to post it on the "Little Thins" topic or here, too.
Ines Tegator
Serious Business Inc. Ltd. LLC. etc.
#7 - 2014-09-03 18:17:41 UTC
Komodo Askold wrote:
I would suggest you to try to lower your screen's brightness. Although that might make other things more difficult to see. If that is not a solution for you, then the "Star Brightness Slider" would be a good idea. I suggest you to post it on the "Little Thins" topic or here, too.

I forgot about those threads. Thanks.
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#8 - 2014-09-03 22:21:02 UTC
CCP may be the only game developer who has figured out how to make virtual stars as bright and painful to look at as real ones.

Can we have some sort of way to alter these things?
Ines Tegator
Serious Business Inc. Ltd. LLC. etc.
#9 - 2014-09-03 23:47:54 UTC
Adunh Slavy
#10 - 2014-09-03 23:55:08 UTC
Yes, we need to be able to adjust the brightness of a number of things, local star and dust mostly.

Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.  - William Pitt

elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
Brave Collective
#11 - 2014-09-04 00:16:52 UTC
Ines Tegator wrote:
Just came back from a break (Hi) and undocked. Big mistake.

The new star graphics are gorgeous. They are also so bright that they cause me headaches. Real ones. IRL. The kind that cause actual pain. With, like, painful feelings and stuff.

To top it off, I can't look away anymore because the flares have a much wider angle now; so basically 30% of the entire sky I'm not allowed to look at. It used to be like one screen's worth, now I can't look within 2 or sometimes 3 screens (depends on the star system).

CCP: YOUR GAME IS NOW CAUSING ME PHYSICAL PAIN.

Google shows me requests on the same topic going back to at least 2008, probably earlier. Fix it. Seriously. Put in a brightness/flare/contrast slider for star lens flares.


Well I don't about your light sensibility and I advise to see a doctor, an eye doctor or a neurologist for that and to quote Alvatore,
screen settings.

Thing is, almost all screen 'producers' set their screens to a default setting of 100% contrast and very high brightness and this is not only a bad thing for your eyes.

Since most folks are too lazy to go through all the strange menus they dump into screens nowadays, those settings stay.
And if your screen has a maximum brightness of 300cd/m² (read as 'Candela' not compact disc) which is a brightness value, you'll need sunglasses to look at 'white'.

I would suggest, setting contrast to 50%, brightness to 50% and if available choose 'warm' colors or to your liking the 6500k or 9400k color profile (I don't remember which one was the not so bright one), your eye say thank you in advance!

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Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#12 - 2014-09-04 03:39:55 UTC
elitatwo wrote:
Well I don't about your light sensibility and I advise to see a doctor, an eye doctor or a neurologist for that and to quote Alvatore,
screen settings.

Thing is, almost all screen 'producers' set their screens to a default setting of 100% contrast and very high brightness and this is not only a bad thing for your eyes.

Since most folks are too lazy to go through all the strange menus they dump into screens nowadays, those settings stay.
And if your screen has a maximum brightness of 300cd/m² (read as 'Candela' not compact disc) which is a brightness value, you'll need sunglasses to look at 'white'.

I would suggest, setting contrast to 50%, brightness to 50% and if available choose 'warm' colors or to your liking the 6500k or 9400k color profile (I don't remember which one was the not so bright one), your eye say thank you in advance!


6500k is the dimmer of the two, for the record.
Valkin Mordirc
#13 - 2014-09-04 08:24:43 UTC
I support this idea, to many times has a FC warp a fleet into the middle of the sun for lol's.
#DeleteTheWeak
Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
#14 - 2014-09-04 08:47:12 UTC
(Sighs) Should I even mention what I think about the tacit amount of complaints made be people when the jump animations came out?

"Tomahawks?"

"----in' A, right?"

"Trouble is, those things cost like a million and a half each."

"----, you pay me half that and I'll hump in some c4 and blow the ---- out of it my own damn self."

elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
Brave Collective
#15 - 2014-09-04 14:18:13 UTC
Alvatore DiMarco wrote:
-snip-

6500k is the dimmer of the two, for the record.


Thank you, dear!

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elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
Brave Collective
#16 - 2014-09-04 14:24:29 UTC
Sobaan Tali wrote:
(Sighs) Should I even mention what I think about the tacit amount of complaints made be people when the jump animations came out?


You can and when I got my 24" screen and turned it on the first time, I was blind for half an hour!

So listen kids, all that contrast stuff the marketing folks are trying to sell you is all very unimportant and bogus most of the time, what you want to look at are the cd/m² values.

My Philip 24" screen has 360cd/m² which mean it is very, very, very bright at 50% brightness and 50% contrast but it only uses like 25W(atts) in return. Some other manufacturers do not like to mention what their screens are doing, as some 40" go as far as 250W(atts).

It can be done with less power consumption.

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Kaerakh
Obscure Joke Implied
#17 - 2014-09-04 18:30:10 UTC