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Grouped Weapons, not all firing?

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Cloon McCloon
Space Fukery
#1 - 2014-09-03 02:13:12 UTC
When I fire a group of weapons, should they not either all fire at once, or none at all? It's happened to me a few times now where I have 8 of the exact same weapon linked to single group in my battleship, and hit the fire button while getting a lock, and it fires just as they go to warp or jump through a gate, and only a few of the rounds actually shot... the rest are still loaded and didn't fire. Is there any way to prevent that?
Thanks
Cannibal Kane
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2014-09-03 02:41:41 UTC
Cloon McCloon wrote:
When I fire a group of weapons, should they not either all fire at once, or none at all? It's happened to me a few times now where I have 8 of the exact same weapon linked to single group in my battleship, and hit the fire button while getting a lock, and it fires just as they go to warp or jump through a gate, and only a few of the rounds actually shot... the rest are still loaded and didn't fire. Is there any way to prevent that?
Thanks


I noticed this happen when you group guns in stations.

In space just un-group them and group them again.

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Rhiannon Marius
Marius Family Enterprises Unlimited
#3 - 2014-09-03 05:01:39 UTC
Cannibal Kane wrote:
Cloon McCloon wrote:
When I fire a group of weapons, should they not either all fire at once, or none at all? It's happened to me a few times now where I have 8 of the exact same weapon linked to single group in my battleship, and hit the fire button while getting a lock, and it fires just as they go to warp or jump through a gate, and only a few of the rounds actually shot... the rest are still loaded and didn't fire. Is there any way to prevent that?
Thanks


I noticed this happen when you group guns in stations.

In space just un-group them and group them again.


Had this same bug, ditto what Kane said to fix it.
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2014-09-03 12:45:47 UTC
I brought this up last year, and filed a bug report.

It was such a small thing though that I kinda just got used to only grouping guns and launchers undocked and forgot it was even a thing. Totally forgot I even filed the bug report, which received the generic "thanks for reporting this" spiel and was subsequently closed.

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Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#5 - 2014-09-03 13:01:35 UTC
you can group guns in the station?
hmm...

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Nico Laitanen
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2014-09-03 16:49:51 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
you can group guns in the station?
hmm...


Not successfully, apparently.
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#7 - 2014-09-03 17:19:34 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
you can group guns in the station?
hmm...




Yeah I didn't know this.

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Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
#8 - 2014-09-03 19:32:25 UTC
Good to know and thanks for sharing. I usually group and load my weapons while docked.

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Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#9 - 2014-09-03 19:47:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Ralph King-Griffin
Oh I load them in station iv just never bothered grouping in station before.
Cheers for the info.

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Carmen Electra
AlcoDOTTE
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#10 - 2014-09-03 19:49:03 UTC
u can group while docked Shocked

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Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#11 - 2014-09-03 19:56:47 UTC
How do I unfit the guns from my pod? I want to put a cloak on it...

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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#12 - 2014-09-03 21:10:35 UTC
Carmen Electra wrote:
u can group while docked Shocked
Yes. The old fashioned way, hold shift and drag on top of the others.
All that modern one button click easiness, bah....Blink

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Bienator II
madmen of the skies
#13 - 2014-09-03 21:36:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Bienator II
it can be even worse when you reload and it only loads one gun and it tells you that the group is out of charges when you try to fire again (you see it as full clip).

I am pretty sure this bug is related to what you are experiencing, i reported it about a year ago. I even lost ships because of that since i didn't see the notification in combat and i couldn't fire.

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Raiz Nhell
Tactically Challenged
The Initiative.
#14 - 2014-09-04 01:45:11 UTC
Bienator II wrote:
it can be even worse when you reload and it only loads one gun and it tells you that the group is out of charges when you try to fire again (you see it as full clip).

I am pretty sure this bug is related to what you are experiencing, i reported it about a year ago. I even lost ships because of that since i didn't see the notification in combat and i couldn't fire.


A million times this, especially with laser crystals (obviously the ones that degrade)
You have to unload all the crystals and load them again before you can fire again.

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Viziam
Amarr Empire
#15 - 2014-09-04 02:25:00 UTC
Carmen Electra wrote:
u can group while docked Shocked

It's about as awesome to learn that for the first time as it is to learn that you can drag modules around in your HUD, even to different racks.

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Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
Safety.
#16 - 2014-09-04 06:45:39 UTC
Yeah, this bug is pretty horrible if it happens during a gank since every shot counts. I am not 100% sure, but I think I also encountered this after I started to group them in space, but it certainly reduces the probability of it happening.

Evil RatKid
CCP Explorer
C C P
C C P Alliance
#17 - 2014-09-04 11:41:11 UTC
If this happens, please file a bug report from within the client. That way we get the logs from the client.

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Anthar Thebess
#18 - 2014-09-04 12:36:12 UTC
CCP Explorer wrote:
If this happens, please file a bug report from within the client. That way we get the logs from the client.

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CCP Explorer
C C P
C C P Alliance
#19 - 2014-09-04 17:21:44 UTC
Anthar Thebess wrote:
CCP Explorer wrote:
If this happens, please file a bug report from within the client. That way we get the logs from the client.
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How so? If you want more details then please read https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/an-update-on-bug-reporting-part-3/ (and the earlier parts 1 and 2). In the third part look for "There is also the matter of the in-client bug reporting tool...".

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Greg Valanti
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2014-09-04 17:31:02 UTC
I almost always group my guns while in station when first fitting a ship and never knew about this bug. I wonder how many times I've been gimped because of it without knowing.
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