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Calling all Mercs and Anti ISBOXER Personel
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voetius
Grundrisse
#21 - 2014-08-31 21:20:59 UTC
Steppa Musana wrote:
OP you aren't going to find too many people to help you take out a mining fleet like this. There's a few reasons why that is...

1) You seem to have hurt your reputation somehow, albeit I am not aware of how.
2) You have mentioned that the fleet is willing to bring in logistics ships to protect themselves. Logi is everyone's worst nightmare.
3) Most people going after miners are doing so because they are weak targets or because they disagree with their attitude towards EVE. An ISBox fleet of this size is playing EVE right; exploiting game mechanics to maximize set goals, and willing to protect one's assets against player hostiles. Most people reading respect the miner because of this, and will be motivated to leave him alone because of that respect.

With that said offering large swathes of money to people in order to help alleviate a problem you have with a player is EVE at it's finest, so I bid you good luck!


In addition to the above, reasons to think this is a poorly throught out scam (you asking people to donate you isk) or just attention seeking:

4) Why you are reluctant to use a trusted third-party to hold the isk. If you are willing to throw 20bill at a project it's reasonable to assume that you could afford to do use a trusted third-party, so why not?
Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#22 - 2014-08-31 23:22:58 UTC
I am wondering why he can't just use his game breaking invincible rattlesnake to instawin. Cause it can. Or something.

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Damon Messer
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#23 - 2014-09-01 02:22:58 UTC
OP, could I interest you in purchasing some Aloe vera?
Luwc
State War Academy
Caldari State
#24 - 2014-09-01 06:37:36 UTC
u wot m8

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Lilly Naari
Enclave Security Forces
#25 - 2014-09-01 11:45:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Lilly Naari
voetius wrote:
Steppa Musana wrote:
OP you aren't going to find too many people to help you take out a mining fleet like this. There's a few reasons why that is...

1) You seem to have hurt your reputation somehow, albeit I am not aware of how.
2) You have mentioned that the fleet is willing to bring in logistics ships to protect themselves. Logi is everyone's worst nightmare.
3) Most people going after miners are doing so because they are weak targets or because they disagree with their attitude towards EVE. An ISBox fleet of this size is playing EVE right; exploiting game mechanics to maximize set goals, and willing to protect one's assets against player hostiles. Most people reading respect the miner because of this, and will be motivated to leave him alone because of that respect.

With that said offering large swathes of money to people in order to help alleviate a problem you have with a player is EVE at it's finest, so I bid you good luck!


In addition to the above, reasons to think this is a poorly throught out scam (you asking people to donate you isk) or just attention seeking:

4) Why you are reluctant to use a trusted third-party to hold the isk. If you are willing to throw 20bill at a project it's reasonable to assume that you could afford to do use a trusted third-party, so why not?


1. I Did say I would front the first 20,000,000,000 Billion myself. I did not just ask for donations. I said Donate if you want. HUGE difference.

2. I also stated I wanted 5 volunteers (from this thread) to watch the wallet to ensure no "Scamming" as you put it was taking place.

3. Why wont I trust a 3rd Party?

Because trusting people in EvE is a huge mistake. Even people with reputations. It wouldn't be the first time some "Reputable" character or individual decided "Hey **** this **** "Money Money Money". Look at EvE's history, happens all the time.
Lilly Naari
Enclave Security Forces
#26 - 2014-09-01 11:48:09 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Lilly Naari wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:
I can see you have put a lot of thought in to your laughably terrible idea.



So... Paying people to gank someone is a horrible Idea? Man.... You better go tell all the Merc Corps that make billions a month doing it they are totally wrong and not playing the game right.


No, asking for 10 volunteers to do 99% of the work for free is laughably terrible. Also you're a nobody so no one is going to trust you unless you have purchased the services of someone honest to provide oversight.


Um... I am paying them 20,000,000,000 out of my own pocket. Of course I expect them to do the work.......
Lilly Naari
Enclave Security Forces
#27 - 2014-09-01 11:56:28 UTC
Steppa Musana wrote:
OP you aren't going to find too many people to help you take out a mining fleet like this. There's a few reasons why that is...

1) You seem to have hurt your reputation somehow, albeit I am not aware of how.
2) You have mentioned that the fleet is willing to bring in logistics ships to protect themselves. Logi is everyone's worst nightmare.
3) Most people going after miners are doing so because they are weak targets or because they disagree with their attitude towards EVE. An ISBox fleet of this size is playing EVE right; exploiting game mechanics to maximize set goals, and willing to protect one's assets against player hostiles. Most people reading respect the miner because of this, and will be motivated to leave him alone because of that respect.

With that said offering large swathes of money to people in order to help alleviate a problem you have with a player is EVE at it's finest, so I bid you good luck!


Honestly I am not sure what I did either, If you notice its the same 2-3 people always following me around slandering my posts etc.

I think my stance on ISboxer fleets is perhaps pissing people off because they use it extensively, and they don;t want their income hurt. So vehemently slandering and opposing my threads and attempting to make me look bad is a good way to squash the idea by discrediting me.

Also those same people are posting the same rhetoric on anyone who post against ISboxer, not just me, so it's basically the ISboxers Mains launching a smear campaign against the Anti ISboxer people I guess.

Whats funny is that these same "For ISboxer" individuals, are people from Corps and Alliances who supposedly Hate Botters and Farmers. Which is either really hypocritical, or means their simply trolls.
Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#28 - 2014-09-01 12:51:37 UTC
I have no view on isboxer at all. I think your a bad because you think a rattlesnake can tank 10 t3s.

Deeeeeeeeerrp.

You trolled my thread first mate. Don't shake my cage next time.

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Miko Jin
HELVEGEN
#29 - 2014-09-01 12:51:44 UTC
Lilly Naari wrote:
Steppa Musana wrote:
OP you aren't going to find too many people to help you take out a mining fleet like this. There's a few reasons why that is...

1) You seem to have hurt your reputation somehow, albeit I am not aware of how.
2) You have mentioned that the fleet is willing to bring in logistics ships to protect themselves. Logi is everyone's worst nightmare.
3) Most people going after miners are doing so because they are weak targets or because they disagree with their attitude towards EVE. An ISBox fleet of this size is playing EVE right; exploiting game mechanics to maximize set goals, and willing to protect one's assets against player hostiles. Most people reading respect the miner because of this, and will be motivated to leave him alone because of that respect.

With that said offering large swathes of money to people in order to help alleviate a problem you have with a player is EVE at it's finest, so I bid you good luck!


Honestly I am not sure what I did either, If you notice its the same 2-3 people always following me around slandering my posts etc.

I think my stance on ISboxer fleets is perhaps pissing people off because they use it extensively, and they don;t want their income hurt. So vehemently slandering and opposing my threads and attempting to make me look bad is a good way to squash the idea by discrediting me.

Also those same people are posting the same rhetoric on anyone who post against ISboxer, not just me, so it's basically the ISboxers Mains launching a smear campaign against the Anti ISboxer people I guess.

Whats funny is that these same "For ISboxer" individuals, are people from Corps and Alliances who supposedly Hate Botters and Farmers. Which is either really hypocritical, or means their simply trolls.


From reading this thread I find that what you write/quote has something to do with the way you are answered.
A lot of what you have written is inacurate and somewhat flaming.
The part about your Rattlesnake is funny to say the least and I am sure has given some the fuel to prove you wrong.
It might be an idea to revisit what you have posted and realise that the content has been answered in response to your words.
Damon Messer
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#30 - 2014-09-01 16:12:42 UTC
What is this rattlesnake loss you people keep mentioning? I can't find anything about it. I suck at google.
Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#31 - 2014-09-01 16:15:15 UTC
In the other thread he said it tanked ten t3s and would take over 40 assault frigs to kill his.

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Iain Cariaba
#32 - 2014-09-01 20:10:03 UTC
Lilly Naari wrote:
Honestly I am not sure what I did either, If you notice its the same 2-3 people always following me around slandering my posts etc.

I think my stance on ISboxer fleets is perhaps pissing people off because they use it extensively, and they don;t want their income hurt. So vehemently slandering and opposing my threads and attempting to make me look bad is a good way to squash the idea by discrediting me.

Also those same people are posting the same rhetoric on anyone who post against ISboxer, not just me, so it's basically the ISboxers Mains launching a smear campaign against the Anti ISboxer people I guess.

Whats funny is that these same "For ISboxer" individuals, are people from Corps and Alliances who supposedly Hate Botters and Farmers. Which is either really hypocritical, or means their simply trolls.

All I'm doing is pointing out all the myriad of ways you're ever so wrong. Your ludicrous claims aren't backed up by your posts, in fact your posts seem to point to the exact opposite of what you claim.

For those who aren't up to date, here's a list of OP's claims:

  • OP posts on toon with no killboard history to speak of, claiming to know how PvP works when all posts made regarding PvP show a decided lack of knowledge.
  • OP claims to be posting on said toon because the rules in his nullsec alliance prevent him from posting on his main. This may well be legit, but keep reading and you'll see why I think not.
  • OP started a whine thread to try and get ISBoxer banned because a couple ISBoxing mining fleets have been mining out ice sites in one highsec system. Whine threads about highsec ice are always a sure sign of nullsec involvement, right?
  • OP then posted a thread in an attempt to get CCP to implement a mining barge capable of dealing over 700 DPS, although also claims in same thread that he doesn't want it.
  • OP also claims to have a doctrine frigate fit capable of over 500 DPS, and uses it as justification that mining barges should have more DPS.
  • OP claims to have a Rattlesnake capable of tanking 10 t3s, and of nuking 50 assault frigates in less than 10 minutes.
  • Last claim is that OP is a player since beta, which I don't believe because of the above reason.


While I'm unable to speak for anyone else, the claim that I'm an ISBoxer out on a smear campaign against the anti-ISBoxer crowd is pure bullsh*t. I am simply allergic to stupidity. I believe stupidity is contagious, and don't want anyone else catching it from OP, so I have to point out all the ways he's wrong.

And I'll say it again, Lilly. It's not slander if it's written. That is libel. It is also only libel if what I type isn't true, and the onus to prove that is on you.
Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#33 - 2014-09-02 01:36:49 UTC
Iain Cariaba wrote:

Last claim is that OP is a player since beta, which I don't believe because of the above reason.



Nah, its plausible. Im sure there were bads in beta, too.

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Iain Cariaba
#34 - 2014-09-02 07:54:21 UTC
Leto Thule wrote:
Iain Cariaba wrote:

Last claim is that OP is a player since beta, which I don't believe because of the above reason.



Nah, its plausible. Im sure there were bads in beta, too.

Yeah, but not that bad.
Sol epoch
HELVEGEN
#35 - 2014-09-02 07:59:31 UTC
Iain Cariaba wrote:
Leto Thule wrote:
Iain Cariaba wrote:

Last claim is that OP is a player since beta, which I don't believe because of the above reason.



Nah, its plausible. Im sure there were bads in beta, too.

Yeah, but not that bad.


Funny how he has gone quiet since being called out?
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#36 - 2014-09-02 14:16:16 UTC
Lilly Naari wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Lilly Naari wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:
I can see you have put a lot of thought in to your laughably terrible idea.



So... Paying people to gank someone is a horrible Idea? Man.... You better go tell all the Merc Corps that make billions a month doing it they are totally wrong and not playing the game right.


No, asking for 10 volunteers to do 99% of the work for free is laughably terrible. Also you're a nobody so no one is going to trust you unless you have purchased the services of someone honest to provide oversight.


Um... I am paying them 20,000,000,000 out of my own pocket. Of course I expect them to do the work.......


So you're paying 10 'volunteers' the 20 billion isk that you're supposed to be paying to people who kill some dudes multiboxing account. That's pretty sound logic that I can't argue with at all.

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Princess Bride
SharkNado
#37 - 2014-09-02 15:14:53 UTC
Either give the 20 bil to a merc corp or have Chribba confirm in this thread that he has the 20 bil and specify EXACTLY how players can pry it from Chribba's hands or GTFO.

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Tengu Grib
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#38 - 2014-09-02 18:00:58 UTC
Princess Bride wrote:
Either give the 20 bil to a merc corp or have Chribba confirm in this thread that he has the 20 bil and specify EXACTLY how players can pry it from Chribba's hands or GTFO.


Agreed. OP has made no mention of HOW prizes would be payed out, even if anyone went to do it. For all we know he's offering 1 million isk for skiff kills.

Rabble Rabble Rabble

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Charax Bouclier
Silvershield Universal
#39 - 2014-09-02 18:14:26 UTC
I think everyone should form a big mining fleet and follow this guy around and mine all the rocks he is mining to irritate him and kill his efficiency. :)
Tengu Grib
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#40 - 2014-09-02 18:19:20 UTC
Charax Bouclier wrote:
I think everyone should form a big mining fleet and follow this guy around and mine all the rocks he is mining to irritate him and kill his efficiency. :)

It think that's the only way mining could be fun.

Rabble Rabble Rabble

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