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Do I have to use a scout alt to travel in nullsec safely?
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Evenus Battuta
#1 - 2011-12-10 13:09:04 UTC
Well I know that it costs me nothing, but I simply don't like the idea of all disposable alts. Besides, I think it's not a decent game mechanic to force player run 2 clients just in order to travel safely.

Alts for a different career or different information are good, alts for avoid consequence of scam/crime maybe ok. Disposable alts just for everyday travel is plain stupid and means there must be something very wrong with the game design.

I hope that we have another way to scout and travel safely with a single account, free disposable alts will do the game no good. What do you think?
Halcyon Ingenium
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#2 - 2011-12-10 13:12:02 UTC
Evenus Battuta wrote:
Well I know that it costs me nothing, but I simply don't like the idea of all disposable alts. Besides, I think it's not a decent game mechanic to force player run 2 clients just in order to travel safely.

Alts for a different career or different information are good, alts for avoid consequence of scam/crime maybe ok. Disposable alts just for everyday travel is plain stupid and means there must be something very wrong with the game design.

I hope that we have another way to scout and travel safely with a single account, free disposable alts will do the game no good. What do you think?


I travel very safely in t1 frigates fitted for travel. Take the tech I hull of any interceptor, fit with warp stabs and a mwd and afterburner. Put some rigs on it to increase speed in warp. Don't be stupid.

Safe and easy travel.

By the way, since we're already talking, do you want to buy a rifter? I've got the cheapest rifters in Metropolis. If you can find a cheaper rifter, buy it!
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2011-12-10 13:13:03 UTC
Uh. This has to be a really, really ****** troll.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Lexmana
#4 - 2011-12-10 13:13:20 UTC
Evenus Battuta wrote:
Well I know that it costs me nothing, but I simply don't like the idea of all disposable alts. Besides, I think it's not a decent game mechanic to force player run 2 clients just in order to travel safely.

Alts for a different career or different information are good, alts for avoid consequence of scam/crime maybe ok. Disposable alts just for everyday travel is plain stupid and means there must be something very wrong with the game design.

I hope that we have another way to scout and travel safely with a single account, free disposable alts will do the game no good. What do you think?


An interceptor or cov ops will let you escape most camps. Larger ships are very vulnerable but if all you want is make a few jumps you can scout first with an interceptor and turn back to switch ships.
Halcyon Ingenium
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#5 - 2011-12-10 13:14:00 UTC
Yeah probably.

By the way, since we're already talking, do you want to buy a rifter? I've got the cheapest rifters in Metropolis. If you can find a cheaper rifter, buy it!
Evenus Battuta
#6 - 2011-12-10 13:17:23 UTC
Halcyon Ingenium wrote:
Evenus Battuta wrote:
Well I know that it costs me nothing, but I simply don't like the idea of all disposable alts. Besides, I think it's not a decent game mechanic to force player run 2 clients just in order to travel safely.

Alts for a different career or different information are good, alts for avoid consequence of scam/crime maybe ok. Disposable alts just for everyday travel is plain stupid and means there must be something very wrong with the game design.

I hope that we have another way to scout and travel safely with a single account, free disposable alts will do the game no good. What do you think?


I travel very safely in t1 frigates fitted for travel. Take the tech I hull of any interceptor, fit with warp stabs and a mwd and afterburner. Put some rigs on it to increase speed in warp. Don't be stupid.

Safe and easy travel.


I don't know very well about this, do you mean you can travel in this ship rest assured all the time and don't need to know the situation on the other side of the gate?

Well I was kind of hoping there should be a 'travel set' for every ship or some player skills to travel safely.
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2011-12-10 13:20:09 UTC
Use intel channels, use disposable alts, or take a chance on what's on the other side of the gate.

Or go back to empire.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Lexmana
#8 - 2011-12-10 13:22:18 UTC
Evenus Battuta wrote:
I don't know very well about this, do you mean you can travel in this ship rest assured all the time and don't need to know the situation on the other side of the gate?

Well I was kind of hoping there should be a 'travel set' for every ship or some player skills to travel safely.

It is not supposed to be safe to travel in nullsec.

But with some smarts and a small ship you can avoid most danger. Also, in nullsec both sides of the gate are dangerous. You need to take precautions such as not flying gate to gate and use celestials ans waypoints to avoid drag bubbles and of course use your scanner.
Halcyon Ingenium
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#9 - 2011-12-10 13:22:51 UTC
Evenus Battuta wrote:
Halcyon Ingenium wrote:
Evenus Battuta wrote:
Well I know that it costs me nothing, but I simply don't like the idea of all disposable alts. Besides, I think it's not a decent game mechanic to force player run 2 clients just in order to travel safely.

Alts for a different career or different information are good, alts for avoid consequence of scam/crime maybe ok. Disposable alts just for everyday travel is plain stupid and means there must be something very wrong with the game design.

I hope that we have another way to scout and travel safely with a single account, free disposable alts will do the game no good. What do you think?


I travel very safely in t1 frigates fitted for travel. Take the tech I hull of any interceptor, fit with warp stabs and a mwd and afterburner. Put some rigs on it to increase speed in warp. Don't be stupid.

Safe and easy travel.


I don't know very well about this, do you mean you can travel in this ship rest assured all the time and don't need to know the situation on the other side of the gate?

Well I was kind of hoping there should be a 'travel set' for every ship or some player skills to travel safely.


No I mean any reasonably intelligent person will get through most camps with this set up. There is no travel set and no skills for safe travel. If you want to travel safe you are playing the wrong game.

By the way, since we're already talking, do you want to buy a rifter? I've got the cheapest rifters in Metropolis. If you can find a cheaper rifter, buy it!
Takseen
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2011-12-10 13:29:43 UTC
Its harder to travel in nullsec, but its well worth it due to all of the...pretty nebula you can see out there.
Hauling Hal
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2011-12-10 13:37:42 UTC
Evenus Battuta wrote:
Well I know that it costs me nothing, but I simply don't like the idea of all disposable alts. Besides, I think it's not a decent game mechanic to force player run 2 clients just in order to travel safely.

Alts for a different career or different information are good, alts for avoid consequence of scam/crime maybe ok. Disposable alts just for everyday travel is plain stupid and means there must be something very wrong with the game design.

I hope that we have another way to scout and travel safely with a single account, free disposable alts will do the game no good. What do you think?


If the scout can get through, then pretend you are the scout....
Evenus Battuta
#12 - 2011-12-10 13:41:22 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:
Use intel channels, use disposable alts, or take a chance on what's on the other side of the gate.

Or go back to empire.


I didn't say that I want safe travel without a careful plan, I was saying that DISPOSABLE ALTS SHOULD NOT BE THE ANSWER.

FREE DISPOSABLE ALTS SHOULD NOT BE THE ANSWER TO ANYTHING. They make the game less real without consequence, and bring no income to CCP
Halcyon Ingenium
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#13 - 2011-12-10 13:49:22 UTC
Evenus Battuta wrote:
Lord Zim wrote:
Use intel channels, use disposable alts, or take a chance on what's on the other side of the gate.

Or go back to empire.


I didn't say that I want safe travel without a careful plan, I was saying that DISPOSABLE ALTS SHOULD NOT BE THE ANSWER.

FREE DISPOSABLE ALTS SHOULD NOT BE THE ANSWER TO ANYTHING. They make the game less real without consequence, and bring no income to CCP


Well if this is your central point then why not say it, instead of bringing travel in low sec into the conversation; your post focused on low sec travel and so that is what we focused on.

By the way, since we're already talking, do you want to buy a rifter? I've got the cheapest rifters in Metropolis. If you can find a cheaper rifter, buy it!
Jagga Spikes
Spikes Chop Shop
#14 - 2011-12-10 14:03:13 UTC
Evenus Battuta wrote:
Lord Zim wrote:
Use intel channels, use disposable alts, or take a chance on what's on the other side of the gate.

Or go back to empire.


I didn't say that I want safe travel without a careful plan, I was saying that DISPOSABLE ALTS SHOULD NOT BE THE ANSWER.

FREE DISPOSABLE ALTS SHOULD NOT BE THE ANSWER TO ANYTHING. They make the game less real without consequence, and bring no income to CCP


disposable alts aren't foolproof. you might still get caught.

less real? it's using intel for your benefit. as real as real gets.

you don't have to use alt. get a friend to scout for you.
Evenus Battuta
#15 - 2011-12-10 14:04:53 UTC
Halcyon Ingenium wrote:
Evenus Battuta wrote:
Lord Zim wrote:
Use intel channels, use disposable alts, or take a chance on what's on the other side of the gate.

Or go back to empire.


I didn't say that I want safe travel without a careful plan, I was saying that DISPOSABLE ALTS SHOULD NOT BE THE ANSWER.

FREE DISPOSABLE ALTS SHOULD NOT BE THE ANSWER TO ANYTHING. They make the game less real without consequence, and bring no income to CCP


Well if this is your central point then why not say it, instead of bringing travel in low sec into the conversation; your post focused on low sec travel and so that is what we focused on.


My bad, my English teacher died when I was too young.
pmota
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#16 - 2011-12-10 14:05:37 UTC
Yo don't have to use a alt all the time
You can ofc use it until you are in feythabolis. All you have to do is fit a nice ship with lots of officer stuff then use the alt to come to our systems. Then get rid of the alt, please.
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2011-12-10 14:07:21 UTC
Notice how I gave you 4 different options, only one of which was "use disposable alts".

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2011-12-10 14:08:31 UTC
You know, kind of like the fact that this is a multiplayer game, use that to your advantage and ask other people what the status of other systems is.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
#19 - 2011-12-10 14:17:12 UTC
Evenus Battuta wrote:
alts for avoid consequence of scam/crime maybe ok. Disposable alts just for everyday travel is plain stupid and means there must be something very wrong with the game design.
Dear god, what am I even reading?

Anyway, scout alts help, aren't necessary, and yes if you play solo you are going to need alts to be able to do everything you want.

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Alina Wize
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#20 - 2011-12-10 14:19:21 UTC
Eve is not a solo game, get a friend to scout for you or use a second acct.
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