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You know.... this whole "grrrrr Goons" undertone.
I unno, mate. But I see you as an ally in this thread, so Imma let it go. :p

(PS: it's mostly Mittens who is outraged... not Goonswarm as an entity)

That's my point. He doxed me in his CSM thread years ago. So I find it funny that hes throwing a fit.

Thing is, I'm not the one generalizing others. Apparently, this new wave of "feminists" which pretty much have nothing to do with the feminists that came before, and we should respect, produced people that have the same level of intelligence that they are attempting to get rid of.
Add the grand standing enabling tool that is the internet, and you end up with the poorest examples of misguided feminism, attention-seeking SJWs and half-baked sensationalist journalists, all jumbled up in a whirlpool that doesn't help *at all* the feminist cause. Add, also self-empowered, counter-reactionary misguided tools and you end up with a clusterfuck of epic proportions that attracts the wrong kind of attention to the issue at hand.

And what the **** was that last statement?

Finally the guy gets it.


You see, that's what I'm trying to say. While the fact that Sarkeesian is or is not one of those is a matter of discussion, she is being used as the banner for all those spotlight ranger and toxic narcissist female supremacists. You see, it might be just 2%, but it's a highly vocal 2%, and those are the ones that are ruining the whole thing since if they scream the loudest, then they might be the majority, right? So let's follow them!





Oppressing? Last batch of female heroines that came up in good games, are prime example of what you're talking.

Elizabeth from Bioshock Infinite? Great female character over there.
Red from Transistor? Never a silent MC said more with no words at all.


So yeah, my... "ilk". You mean the ones *trying* to see both sides of the conflict and *trying* to make a fair assessment out of the extremely vocal and attention-seeking people that comprise these minorities of both sides that try to get the wrong kind of attention to the issue at hand?

Well, **** me, let me "sperg" a bit more then.

No. No, that's not what's happening. None of these women are doing anything of the such. They want to play video games and not be offended by how their own gender is depicted. I never played God of War.... wanna know why? Because Kratos offended the holy hell out of me, as a male. Duke Nukem? Same. All of the GTA games? Ditto. I could keep the list going, but I'm sure you get the point by now. Am I oppressing women because I didn't like those games? Maybe some of the female gamers out there want to see a shirtless demigod wander into a brothel and bang every woman in the room before setting off to indiscriminately kill people. I don't care. Doesn't take away my right to not like it. Doesn't take away my right to say "I'd like to see less of that tripe". Maybe I, as a man, would like to see an average or slightly athletic-looking protagonist. Maybe, as a bisexual, I'd like to see a hero that digs both genders (oh, and BTW.... the GamerGate derps want to keep bi or homosexual depictions out of games because they want to keep everything nice and cis... so I have even more reason to hate them).

You want to rail against female supremists, go knock on sex-negative feminism, telling everyone that all forms of hetero intercourse are the same as r**e. Go yell at the women who say they're entitled to alimony, or the "mothers" who use their own children as weapons against their ex husbands, but fight bitterly to keep custody of offspring they don't even want outside of causing more pain to a man that no longer wants anything to do with her.
Go get on the case of the women who mock male domestic violence victims.
Do I see any of these #GamerGate mouthbreathers doing that? Hell no. That's REAL misandry. Men claiming to have the best interests of their own gender in mind, but would rather defend animated girls in skimpy clothes, than get involved in ACTUAL issues where men have it rough. Try allying with real feminists and helping to quell ALL forms of sexism, instead of protecting the sexism you want to keep around, and decrying imagined sexist slights against things you just like to have.

"Damsel in distress" is boring at best, and literally objectifying at worst. That needs to be a thing of the past.
Skimpy armor. Stupid as hell. Defeats the entire purpose of wearing metal clothes. Why was that EVER even a thing?

Do you even listen to anything she says? Or are you just blindly following the talking heads?
Because defending people who have terrorized and threatened a woman who spoke her opinion (an opinions she, as an American, had a legal right to express... a legal right you want to strip from her, while screaming that your own is being taken from you).... guess what that is? Deplorable. Subhuman. Sickening. WRONG.

**micdrop**

@Jarod Garamonde
I don't think you're getting that the argument being given isn't necessarily something that's actually related to one individual. The harassment of that woman was obviously wrong, should never have happened, and a sign of the disgusting under-belly of the gaming community. But it's not linked to every single argument for and against the perception of women in video games. Take a deep breath and a step back before your next 'micdrop'.


And the other 95% of games?

Face it, sex sells, so it's used very often to sell to a predominately male audience.

I don't believe I ever mentioned a "damsel in distress trope". But the objectification of women is definitely there in any industry that sells to a primarily male audience.

Sorry, but 3D models are not usually made by 3D body scans.

So because one person has a preference, all people should be subject to that preference?

Here's what I follow:

I read arguments form both sides, and both sides can be, deplorable, subhuman sickening and wrong. Issue is, these ones tend to be the ones that gather more attention.

Mysoginy exists on both sides, as does mysandry.

The few, rational and coherent voices that pop up on all this are drowned in a sea of rage for the sake of raging, and any attempt to actually be helpful is labeled as "profiteering" (feminists calling out the guys who invented a nail polish that can detect **** drugs as "profiting and creating a false sense of security" is the best example of this) or "betrayal to the cause.", because **** different opinions about the same issue, if you're not with me, you're my bitter enemy.

In the end, what I see is pretty much children using the internet as a means to gather attention (by themselves or exploiting someone's image and twist it), not to the cause, but to themselves, and a sensationalist press, looking to up their ratings gives them a hand, instead trying to get to the truth.



Hey, but that's my opinion on this whole, sordid and deplorable mess.