Ships & Modules

It becomes damage application vs tanking ability.

From an EFT DPS perspective, the SNI catches up to the CNR eventually but EFT DPS isn't the reality most of the time. The CNR gets bonuses in explosion radius so damage application to things smaller than a Battleship will be better.

What I also find better about the CNR is that there are less wasted barrages. Since the SNI relies on rate of fire, you will often end up firing off an extra barrage while the killing barrage is in mid-flight. The SNI also has a mixed damage package (6 launchers and one turret for max damage) so you won't get full benefit of your BCS across all.

Now, with all that said, the SNI is a snooze boat meaning that it can create such a massive tank that it doesn't take much to manage it during level 4s. The SNI can push a 23% larger EHP tank than the CNR and has an 11% higher EHP on shield rep as a result. You can also get to ridiculous EHPs with it if you use use specific hardeners and extenders.

Either one is a good ship - I have found that the CNR runs through missions faster (and really isn't that the point) with Hobi IIs managing frigates. The SNI runs like 5% slower (complete guess) but is obviously much more forgiving based on the amount of tank.

Try Raven first. Fit it with MJD and see how it will go. Switch to RNI when you will be ready.

what loyd said, and also for level 3 you want a drake. not a battleship. due to the way weapons work using a larger weapon system on smaller ships means you do less damage. shooting cruise missiles against frigs is not efficient. does it work? yes, but i will assume you dont have all your support skills up high enough for it to really be a good idea.

in EVE (as in real life, sorry guys) bigger isnt better. many times bigger is worse.

[Drake, Drake: L3 MJD]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
Medium Ancillary Shield Booster
Medium Micro Jump Drive

Heavy Missile Launcher II
Heavy Missile Launcher II
Heavy Missile Launcher II
Heavy Missile Launcher II
Heavy Missile Launcher II
Heavy Missile Launcher II
Drone Link Augmentor II

Medium Processor Overclocking Unit I
Medium Ionic Field Projector I
Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst I


Hobgoblin II

Read more: http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/70444-Drake-L3-MJD.html#ixzz39kgIBxWw


or if you want a bricktank since you are new (not a bad idea to start with something a bit overtanked until you get the hang of things)

[Drake, Lv3 Mission Drake]
Shield Power Relay II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

EM Ward Field II
EM Ward Field II
Thermic Dissipation Field II
Large Shield Extender II
Experimental 10MN Afterburner I
Parallel Weapon Navigation Transmitter

XR-3200 Heavy Missile Bay
XR-3200 Heavy Missile Bay
XR-3200 Heavy Missile Bay
XR-3200 Heavy Missile Bay
XR-3200 Heavy Missile Bay
XR-3200 Heavy Missile Bay
Empty

Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Medium Core Defense Field Purger I
Medium Core Defense Field Purger I


Hobgoblin I

Read more: http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/64804-Lv3-Mission-Drake.html#ixzz39kgZu7lq


(yeah i use battleclinic.. suck it up buttercup.. i havent flown a drake in pve since.. eh.. hmm.. 2008 so.. not gonna fit something up.. suck it).

yes of course t2 the launchers if you can.. or.. i dont know what the meta launchers go for these days, use as high meta (1 to 4 that is) that you feel you can afford. malkuth should be supercheap.. no idea about the arbalests.

I will probably go Scorpion Navy issue since he has more tank and can comfortably handle L4.

What kind of none blingy fit is adapted for L4 SoE in Apanake please ?

There is no reason you can't use Rapid Heavy Launchers on a BS for L3s. Esp if that BS' bonuses apply to heavies or the launchers.

Thanks People for all your Info. I learend alot. I will think hard about what to do. i have aa rough idea.

SNI for lower sp guys.

CNR for guys who cap off missile/shield/cap skills.

RS when you got drones/missiles both T2 with good secondary skills.

I recommend SNI when you start L4's and move on to the RS when ready.

CNR can be a skipped if you train sentry/heavy drones.
If you have no interest in training drones above medium T2's go right for the CNR.


Drake is good for your L3's but you might want a GIla for them if you want to run the Gurista ships.

Probably the best anwser.

Any BS (except standard Scorpion) is good enough for L4 missions. One will do it a tat faster then the other and one will be more safe/tanky thne the other. It's all about personal prefferences and playstyle.

SNI has like a 2200HP tank with standard T2 fit so for the newer peeps doing L4's it's probably the safest BS to do missions with... you can make quite a few mistakes if you have over a 2k tank and decent omni resistance.

You get a lot of cruiser rats in Level 3 missions. Non-drone battleships can have serious trouble taking down high-grade cruiser rats, judging from my own experience and what I've read from other experienced mission runners.

And Marauders are for people who have the liquid reserves to put down over a billion ISK on the hull alone, plus who knows how much on rigging and fitting, plus have reserves in case of gankers. Oh, and the skill requirements for a Marauder are rather on the high side.

I can understand how someone with access to effectively unlimited resources might think that a Maruader should be the standard hull for those Level 4 missions, but - news flash - not everyone in EVE is space rich.

SNI for me too at the moment.

The tank is confidence building and the damage is perfectly adequate if not quite maxed.

Plus, she looks ace compared to the RNI