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DED Site De-Spawn While Mining-Out = B A D
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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#1 - 2011-12-10 12:11:49 UTC
We can all understand the necessity of taking steps with the DED Site de-spawn because of the Cloaking issues and all that.....

.....but can there not be a mechanism to detect legitimate activity in the Site ?

But, 5 minutes into mining out the Jaspet and Hemo in Sansha's Lookout, and then everything evaporates ?? Really ???? For REALLLZZZ ?????? Evil

Thanks a lot for this latest slap in the face to legitimate miners. Please Sirs, may we have another ???

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Drew Solaert
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2011-12-10 12:36:49 UTC
Probably not as there is nothing stopping some guy putting a sigil in there with a single basic mining laser and expanders and keeping the site open for the next 2-3 hours as a work around the cloak thing.

I lied :o
Kalicor Lightwind
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2011-12-10 12:48:53 UTC
It's called you go there and blow him up since if he's mining he's not cloaked. =P
Xenial Jesse Taalo
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2011-12-10 12:50:27 UTC
I thought the point was to stop cloaked ships doing it, not all ships.
St Mio
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2011-12-10 13:56:22 UTC
Trolling explorers by keeping DED sites open so they can't respawn and drop more loot? How kind of you!
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#6 - 2011-12-10 13:58:51 UTC
I wouldnt mind allow miners to camp at a DED site, makes them easier prey for a suicider being all alone.

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War Kitten
Panda McLegion
#7 - 2011-12-10 15:18:33 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
We can all understand the necessity of taking steps with the DED Site de-spawn because of the Cloaking issues and all that.....

.....but can there not be a mechanism to detect legitimate activity in the Site ?

But, 5 minutes into mining out the Jaspet and Hemo in Sansha's Lookout, and then everything evaporates ?? Really ???? For REALLLZZZ ?????? Evil

Thanks a lot for this latest slap in the face to legitimate miners. Please Sirs, may we have another ???



Heh, they probably didn't think about this case when making the change. Post it as a bug report if you want results.

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Russell Casey
Doomheim
#8 - 2011-12-10 16:20:46 UTC
But noooooo--one wants to see a AFK logout timer because it would "hurt" miners and traders (=people who are AFK the most).
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2011-12-10 16:46:10 UTC
Oh i wish i had seen your face !!!! *LOL*

Although ... i sympathize. That must have really sucked. :)

...

YOUR FACE -> O_O !!! *LOL*
Corina Jarr
en Welle Shipping Inc.
#10 - 2011-12-10 16:49:37 UTC
My guess is it was an oversight. The probably didn't think people actually did mine those.

I think you should file a bug report, detailing why this is an issue.
Minister of Death
Doomheim
#11 - 2011-12-10 17:48:46 UTC
Their solution to this is probably 'remove the ores' from DED complexes. .
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#12 - 2011-12-10 17:58:30 UTC
Xenial Jesse Taalo wrote:
I thought the point was to stop cloaked ships doing it, not all ships.



Yeah. I assumed it had to do with static activity or something. Apparently NOT.

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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#13 - 2011-12-10 18:00:21 UTC
War Kitten wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:

Thanks a lot for this latest slap in the face to legitimate miners. Please Sirs, may we have another ???



Heh, they probably didn't think about this case when making the change. Post it as a bug report if you want results.



he he. Between this and Singularity, if I file another bug report............. Ugh

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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#14 - 2011-12-10 18:01:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Krixtal Icefluxor
Russell Casey wrote:
But noooooo--one wants to see a AFK logout timer because it would "hurt" miners and traders (=people who are AFK the most).



I know, but some of us aren't. Wish I had a picture of my face when the rocks just vanished. lol

Structures, particle cloud, fake asteroids......all gone in an instant and plunged into Deep Space.

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Grey Stormshadow
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2011-12-10 18:41:54 UTC
File a bug report... this is clearly one.

Uncloaked ships should prevent de-spawn.

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#16 - 2011-12-10 19:42:10 UTC
Mining doesn't count as “legitimate activity” in a combat site, obviously — it despawned when you were done… Blink
Nikola Aivoras
Mercantilist Corporation of New Eden
#17 - 2011-12-10 19:44:48 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Mining doesn't count as “legitimate activity” in a combat site, obviously — it despawned when you were done… Blink


Then why are there asteroids in the first place?
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#18 - 2011-12-11 04:12:36 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Mining doesn't count as “legitimate activity” in a combat site, obviously — it despawned when you were done… Blink



What?! Did you author the infamous EVE User Manual ???????

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Kaylyis
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2011-12-11 05:39:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Kaylyis
Russell Casey wrote:
But noooooo--one wants to see a AFK logout timer because it would "hurt" miners and traders (=people who are AFK the most).


I'm a miner. Implement logout timer please. make it so macros dont register as activity. Death to botminers!

Autopilot should be fine. Pirates need stupid people to relieve of precious cargo.
St Mio
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#20 - 2011-12-11 07:44:50 UTC
Nikola Aivoras wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Mining doesn't count as “legitimate activity” in a combat site, obviously — it despawned when you were done… Blink


Then why are there asteroids in the first place?

It's for decoration, just like the garnish on your dinner plate, you're not actually supposed to mine/eat it.
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