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Risingson
#1 - 2011-12-10 11:45:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Risingson
released a first version of a bp profit calc. its intention for me was to fast check a t2 bpo range tbh

eg http://eveeye.com/profit.asp?blueprint=Gyrostabilizer+II+Blueprint&ML=10&PL=7&POS=1&RAP=1&F60=1&R=1

open for suggestions and bugfixing
Callduron
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#2 - 2011-12-10 15:16:27 UTC
It's really nice looking, 10/10 for style.

Question though, this data:
Industry 5
Production Efficiency 5
Build own components ML20
Base material multiplier = 1,2
Base time multiplier = 0,65
Implant time multiplier = 0,96

Where is that taken from? There maybe should be boxes to say what kind of station you're working in as well as character selection and API

Also the ML is different from the ML input on the left.

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I post on reddit as /u/callduron.
Risingson
#3 - 2011-12-10 15:35:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Risingson
Callduron wrote:
Question though, this data:
Industry 5
Production Efficiency 5
Build own components ML20

The calc uses relevant skills at 5.
The columns "build own" use the bpos for those items at a fixed ML 20

Callduron wrote:
Base material multiplier = 1,2
Base time multiplier = 0,65
Implant time multiplier = 0,96.

these are the multipliers used according to the blueprint and your selections on the left
Rasz Lin
#4 - 2011-12-10 23:12:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Rasz Lin
Risingson wrote:
Callduron wrote:
Question though, this data:
Industry 5
Production Efficiency 5
Build own components ML20

The calc uses relevant skills at 5.
The columns "build own" use the bpos for those items at a fixed ML 20



so the whole calculator operates on fixed data that is only relevant to you? useles
Risingson
#5 - 2011-12-11 00:16:16 UTC
Rasz Lin wrote:
so the whole calculator operates on fixed data that is only relevant to you? useles

booooo
Blueprint Seller
Bring Me Sunshine
#6 - 2011-12-11 17:26:03 UTC
Risingson wrote:
Rasz Lin wrote:
so the whole calculator operates on fixed data that is only relevant to you? useles

booooo

I particularly like the way the calculator can be used instantly to provide a good estimate of profitability without having to be configured extensively.

A ready to use web tool, as it should be.
Andrev Nox
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2011-12-13 11:22:56 UTC
While I applaud the site as an idea, and realize it's perfectly useful for you, the lack of configuration options make Eve Industrialist the better choice in this scenario.

That said, by just changing some of those static values to edit-able values, this could surpass that for usefulness to others.

Somer Blink - The original microlottery site.
Risingson
#8 - 2011-12-13 16:46:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Risingson
Andrev Nox wrote:
... by just changing some of those static values to edit-able values

definitely on top of todo. ty!

/done
BhurakStarkiller
GPDSK
#9 - 2011-12-16 16:48:51 UTC

I use eveeye calc for all my profit calculations!
Lutz Major
Austriae Est Imperare Orbi Universo
#10 - 2011-12-19 13:17:16 UTC
BhurakStarkiller wrote:

I use eveeye calc for all my profit calculations!

Then you should reconsider. The calculations are plain wrong!

http://eveeye.com/profit.asp?blueprint=Gyrostabilizer+II+Blueprint&ML=-4&PL=7&POS=1&RAP=1&F60=0
(The OPs own example, just for ME -4)

Short version: Extra materials, like the Gyrostabilizer I, are not subject to waste and therefor only one item is needed.

Here is the actual ingame quote: http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1108/GyrostabilizerII-ME-4-PE-5-rapid.png
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
#11 - 2011-12-19 13:31:58 UTC
Blueprint calculators: where a coder finds out just how screwed up the DB logic that CCP uses is Blink

Long version: Extra materials are only subject to waste from the manufacturers production efficiency, if and only if they also exist in the main material list. ME waste is never applied. And if a module is marked as recyclable in the extra materials list, the materials that make it up are removed from the main list's perfect value (to a minimum of zero).

Woo! CSM XI!

Fuzzwork Enterprises

Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter
Risingson
#12 - 2011-12-19 14:18:21 UTC
Lutz Major wrote:
BhurakStarkiller wrote:

I use eveeye calc for all my profit calculations!

Then you should reconsider. The calculations are plain wrong!

http://eveeye.com/profit.asp?blueprint=Gyrostabilizer+II+Blueprint&ML=-4&PL=7&POS=1&RAP=1&F60=0
(The OPs own example, just for ME -4)

Short version: Extra materials, like the Gyrostabilizer I, are not subject to waste and therefor only one item is needed.

Here is the actual ingame quote: http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1108/GyrostabilizerII-ME-4-PE-5-rapid.png


saying the whole calc is wrong when finding a bug is a bit harsh but thank you for pointing me to this. will fix asap
Lutz Major
Austriae Est Imperare Orbi Universo
#13 - 2011-12-19 14:41:45 UTC
Risingson wrote:
saying the whole calc is wrong when finding a bug is a bit harsh but thank you for pointing me to this. will fix asap


I didn't want to criticize your effort, Risingson.
But this is no bug! Your equations are wrong and I just made you aware of that
Risingson
#14 - 2011-12-19 14:56:37 UTC
Lutz Major wrote:
Risingson wrote:
saying the whole calc is wrong when finding a bug is a bit harsh but thank you for pointing me to this. will fix asap

I didn't want to criticize your effort, Risingson.
But this is no bug! Your equations are wrong and I just made you aware of that


it does not apply equations accordingly at negative ML. it perfectly works at ML>=0.
i am thankful for you finding out about that.
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
#15 - 2011-12-19 15:24:34 UTC
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=493696#post493696

Negative MEs are fairly easy to handle. at least, once you know the calculation Blink I was told here.

Woo! CSM XI!

Fuzzwork Enterprises

Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter
Risingson
#16 - 2011-12-19 18:29:25 UTC
Steve Ronuken wrote:
Negative MEs are fairly easy to handle. at least, once you know the calculation Blink I was told here.


Thank you. Just fixed a mistake where extra materials were not handled as extra materials at negative ML. all should be ok now.
Nel Gardier
Time Sync
#17 - 2011-12-20 09:17:36 UTC
Regardless of a few teething problems that more learned people are pointing out I think your tool is quite good!

Community content is good content.
Risingson
#18 - 2011-12-27 11:01:44 UTC
Nel Gardier wrote:
Regardless of a few teething problems that more learned people are pointing out I think your tool is quite good! Community content is good content.
Thank you!

Today I updated the sell price field to be editable aswell.
Risingson
#19 - 2011-12-28 14:37:18 UTC
Hedikin
NeoTech Innovations
#20 - 2011-12-28 15:06:21 UTC
nice tool, i like it.

how ever i got a small surgestion

add some colors to the "build cost" / "profit on 1 build" to make them easiere / faster to see.

well thats my few thoughts on the subject, thanks for making it Smile

-Hedikin
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