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CCP X-MAS BAG FAIL.

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Ivan Joukov
Soviet System
#21 - 2011-12-10 10:38:50 UTC
CCP Navigator wrote:
Be a leader and make EVE what you want it to be.


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 Davai!

Amro One
One.
#22 - 2011-12-10 10:40:45 UTC
I love how PL always seems to have the numbers and is in range of all the Events.

Also are flying fleet ships.
Beaches
Doomheim
#23 - 2011-12-10 10:44:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Beaches
CCP Navigator wrote:
Jack Traynor wrote:
Just another in-game thing meant for the big boys. Nothing to see here, move along.


This statement is so untrue that I feel bad even answering it.

Here is the deal, the fleet is moving over the next few days and you are ALL welcome to engage. It is not for the big boys or the small boys or the medium boys: it is for everyone.

I am really sorry that you cannot organize a fleet or join one who that is effective against us. Be a leader and make EVE what you want it to be.



Yeah, when Padro drives his van to the playground, the candy isn't for the little children its for everyone, he's there for everyone. It doesn't matter that he went to a child's playground. Here's the deal, the van is moving over the next few days and EVERYONE is welcome. I'm really sorry you can't take the time out of your schedule to come to the playground, that's your fault.

duuuurrr

This logic is so sound and the average person is brilliant.
Yakumo Smith
No End To Infinity
#24 - 2011-12-10 10:47:43 UTC
SOP for PL is to be able to get large numbers of people on line and in the correct ship within 10 minutes. They do this day in and day out. Pilots in PL make sure they have the required ships in place so that when the FC calls, they are already ready.

Preparation and practice is how they do it.
Angus Thermopollye
#25 - 2011-12-10 10:49:11 UTC
Man, you people can never be happy. Sounds like a bunch of self important, entitlement loving bitches in here. You don't want PL to get all the stuff then bring a bigger and better fleet. Coming on here with the "gimme stuff CCP because I'm too lazy to go get it" line is getting really, really old.

It's grrrrrrrreat!

Lexmana
#26 - 2011-12-10 10:49:12 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
CCP Navigator wrote:
Jack Traynor wrote:
Just another in-game thing meant for the big boys. Nothing to see here, move along.


This statement is so untrue that I feel bad even answering it.

Here is the deal, the fleet is moving over the next few days and you are ALL welcome to engage. It is not for the big boys or the small boys or the medium boys: it is for everyone.

I am really sorry that you cannot organize a fleet or join one who that is effective against us. Be a leader and make EVE what you want it to be.


Doh!

That's going to leave a nasty ego bruise.


Yeah. You really need to grow a pair CCP because there will always be whining. Always.
Kids like to whine every time someone else got more of something. It is to be expected and should be largely ignored.

Keep it up CCP. I am sure more people are happy than are not about your fleet events.
Lucien Visteen
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#27 - 2011-12-10 10:49:46 UTC
Mistress Lilu wrote:
Why do all the ccp fleets have to be killed by the large corporations. Like they need the isk and the dropped items.
CCP show up in systems that do not have these large corporations, such as looserswarm,northerblahcoalition, pathetic legion and so forth..
What a waste.


The special thing about these large corporations is that they have this nifty ability to quickly relocate fleets. And they have no problem traversing big distances to get to where the fun is. So if CCP deployed right in the middle of high-sec you would still see these people.

The ships hung in the sky in much the same way that bricks don't.

Hienz Doofenshmirtz
Outsourced Manufacturing
#28 - 2011-12-10 11:07:23 UTC
U mad bro?

To CCP rock on

www.dust514stats.com do you know?

Embrace My Hate
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#29 - 2011-12-10 11:08:58 UTC
This thread is so full of ignorance it makes my ******* brain hurt.

Mad props to CCP for standing their ground. Keep standing that ground no matter what and you'll have my respect.
Spookyjay
Brain Farmers Inc
#30 - 2011-12-10 11:17:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Spookyjay
It would be nice if CCP broke up the fleet into small death squads of maybe 3-4 fast ships. and spread out at some point over the events. maybe at off peak hours And all over the map.
Just a idea to give EVERYBODY a chance as they say.
Not only that it would give em a good view of how real small scale pvp is working.
Hers a tip for them, 1 Mach, 1 rapier, 1 ceptor and maybe a teir 3 bc for the luls.

They could even make a in house competition of it. The death squad that gets most kills before its death wins a day off.
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
#31 - 2011-12-10 11:18:02 UTC
Perhaps the ironic thing here is that for anyone that remembers the original CCP events team - events (back when Eve was only 10k 15k online) there were similar complaints that the same people were always getting the loot from the events because they made it their business to lurk in the events channels and would quickly relocate to where all the shinies were. But ultimately, it was players flying pimped ships doing the intel work up that put them in the right time and place.

I can tell you from experience though that little guys do sometimes get lucky. Old corp mate of mine managed to snag one of the only Opus Luxury yachts in existence from an event to celebrate the launch of quafe ultra and that was just a matter of being in the right place at the right time and swooping in for the loot.

I do understand its dispiriting to see these CCP fleets that *always* seem to be harvested by PL and their 0.0 allies and it looks fishy - but you need to look past that really as a simple reality of the server at the moment. PL is the Eve aristocracy and when something shiny appears they will come down with their golden chariots and hunt with ivory bows like the kings and queens of old. Thats just fact and the outcome of multiple years of unchallenged moon income etc and static 0.0 napfest. There isn't much anyone can do about *that*.

But what you can do is get into a cheap clone, prep a lootstealing cloaky vessel (bomber will do nicely) and listen to the same rumours PL do. Put PL fleet commanders and personalities in your location agents. Listen to the news, inflitrate pirate intel channels. Travel fast to the site of battles and prepare to steal the loots from under PL noses with a ship that costs less than then ammo they are using.

Ordinary capsuleers (you and me) are the rats in the wainscotting of this dystopian world. The huge alliances have no respect for individuality and seek only conformity and slavish obedience from their drones. We individuals are beneath their notice and that gives us an opportunity to thieve and steal and sabotage from under the gaze of these space-kings and jealous tyrants.

Rather than whining on the forums that things are not fair (nothing is fair) go prep your loot stealing vessels and swap to a cheap clone. Swarm these engagements and steal plex and bpcs out from the grasping fingers of the aristrocracy and toast your larcenary from the shrouding darkness of the cloak while the gods of eve lament the presence of insects to steal their prizes.

But understand this. To PL and their 0.0 nap allies you are nothing. You will never be respected or accepted or dealt a fair hand. Eve is a cruel and unkind universe. So learn the arts and techniques you need to survive and prosper despite the reign of burnished tyrants that rule these stars from their immortal moon-goo empires.

Your victory little loot ninja is your continued existence and drawing breath on the morrow.

And for that I at least salute you and call you my comrade at arms.

The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom

Beaches
Doomheim
#32 - 2011-12-10 11:20:59 UTC
Jade Constantine wrote:
....


You just said PL and years of unchallenged moon income.
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
#33 - 2011-12-10 11:26:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
CCP Navigator wrote:
Jack Traynor wrote:
Just another in-game thing meant for the big boys. Nothing to see here, move along.


This statement is so untrue that I feel bad even answering it.

Here is the deal, the fleet is moving over the next few days and you are ALL welcome to engage. It is not for the big boys or the small boys or the medium boys: it is for everyone.

I am really sorry that you cannot organize a fleet or join one who that is effective against us. Be a leader and make EVE what you want it to be.


In my job i often get deals like this:

Book (X) amount of hotel rooms with us within 30 days and get (Y) prize!

Where X is the amount of hotel rooms I get to book in a whole year or so... Lol

So I usually work with a company that rewards little dealers with rappels and never mails us to tell us with what sort of cool promotional stuff they do for their bigger dealers only. Blink

The moral is, telling your customers they're unworthy of your promotional budget is a moot business practice...Twisted

Roses are red / Violets are blue / I am an Alpha / And so it's you

Grey Stormshadow
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#34 - 2011-12-10 11:27:38 UTC
Risk vs Reward - period

Get classic forum style - custom videos to captains quarters screen

Play with the best - die like the rest

Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
#35 - 2011-12-10 11:29:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Jade Constantine
Beaches wrote:
Jade Constantine wrote:
....

You just said PL and years of unchallenged moon income.


Well understand Beaches, I don't agree with the static nature or basic system of moon income. I think it is ridiculous that the minerals automagically teleport from the moon to behind pos shields (thus protecting the function of income via the reinforcement mechanic - which obviously makes a large mobile power with plenty of naps able to protect itself pretty well) + I don't agree with the boring permanence of the income. I think moon minerals should deplete and respawn elsewhere so that borders would need to shift and naps would be less stable between greedy empires.

Thats what I mean by "unchallenged" - as in protected by game mechanics I consider to be frankly wrong.

But its hardly the point of my post above. We play in the reality of the fabulously rich moon-income boosted PL supremacy where they have napped anyone who can be a threat to them and elected themselves the kings and queens of new eden. Some see this as a symbol of despair and gnash their teeth calling on ccp to run "special events" for "special players" who can't hope to match the firepower of the mighty but I see that as regressive sliding towards a sharded Eve and is horrible to consider.

So I say steal from Pandemic Legion and their alliances, steal and loot and run away laughing!

And cherish your independence and individuality - to survive as a free capsuleer is playing Eve on hard mode and it must be applauded by somebody even if the only one clapping is a rare anarchist trouble-maker with a penchant for theatricality.

The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom

Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
#36 - 2011-12-10 11:33:06 UTC
Grey Stormshadow wrote:
Risk vs Reward - period


Little Jimmy, the teacher's cookies and 100 school bullies. Guess who gets all the cookies. And obviously it's Jimmy's fault to not be a school bully himself.

At least CCP was smart enough to hand out those implants to everyone... P

Roses are red / Violets are blue / I am an Alpha / And so it's you

Embrace My Hate
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#37 - 2011-12-10 11:33:44 UTC
Jade Constantine wrote:
Perhaps the ironic thing here is that for anyone that remembers the original CCP events team - events (back when Eve was only 10k 15k online) there were similar complaints that the same people were always getting the loot from the events because they made it their business to lurk in the events channels and would quickly relocate to where all the shinies were. But ultimately, it was players flying pimped ships doing the intel work up that put them in the right time and place.

I can tell you from experience though that little guys do sometimes get lucky. Old corp mate of mine managed to snag one of the only Opus Luxury yachts in existence from an event to celebrate the launch of quafe ultra and that was just a matter of being in the right place at the right time and swooping in for the loot.

I do understand its dispiriting to see these CCP fleets that *always* seem to be harvested by PL and their 0.0 allies and it looks fishy - but you need to look past that really as a simple reality of the server at the moment. PL is the Eve aristocracy and when something shiny appears they will come down with their golden chariots and hunt with ivory bows like the kings and queens of old. Thats just fact and the outcome of multiple years of unchallenged moon income etc and static 0.0 napfest. There isn't much anyone can do about *that*.

But what you can do is get into a cheap clone, prep a lootstealing cloaky vessel (bomber will do nicely) and listen to the same rumours PL do. Put PL fleet commanders and personalities in your location agents. Listen to the news, inflitrate pirate intel channels. Travel fast to the site of battles and prepare to steal the loots from under PL noses with a ship that costs less than then ammo they are using.

Ordinary capsuleers (you and me) are the rats in the wainscotting of this dystopian world. The huge alliances have no respect for individuality and seek only conformity and slavish obedience from their drones. We individuals are beneath their notice and that gives us an opportunity to thieve and steal and sabotage from under the gaze of these space-kings and jealous tyrants.

Rather than whining on the forums that things are not fair (nothing is fair) go prep your loot stealing vessels and swap to a cheap clone. Swarm these engagements and steal plex and bpcs out from the grasping fingers of the aristrocracy and toast your larcenary from the shrouding darkness of the cloak while the gods of eve lament the presence of insects to steal their prizes.

But understand this. To PL and their 0.0 nap allies you are nothing. You will never be respected or accepted or dealt a fair hand. Eve is a cruel and unkind universe. So learn the arts and techniques you need to survive and prosper despite the reign of burnished tyrants that rule these stars from their immortal moon-goo empires.

Your victory little loot ninja is your continued existence and drawing breath on the morrow.

And for that I at least salute you and call you my comrade at arms.


PL/TEST were never there for the loot. We go where the fights are end of story. It is also well known that we operate with an NBSI policy just like most 0.0 alliances. It has nothing to do with lack of respect for any other player in the game it is simply PvP. Thinking otherwise is just selfish.
Shadoo
North Eastern Swat
#38 - 2011-12-10 11:38:46 UTC
You do know standard operating procedure in Pandemic Legion is to shoot all expensive looking wrecks before your alliance mates (or allies) have a chance to open them, right?

But -- I do echo Jade's sentiment and welcome you to come and try to loot it before Agmar gets his (wreck).
Idris alDin
Perkone
Caldari State
#39 - 2011-12-10 11:40:41 UTC
Confirming PL join fights for jewlewts.

Confirming PL is 1%

Also confirming pubbie scrubs are mad.
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
#40 - 2011-12-10 11:41:04 UTC
Embrace My Hate wrote:
Jade Constantine wrote:
Perhaps the ironic thing here is that for anyone that remembers the original CCP events team - events (back when Eve was only 10k 15k online) there were similar complaints that the same people were always getting the loot from the events because they made it their business to lurk in the events channels and would quickly relocate to where all the shinies were. But ultimately, it was players flying pimped ships doing the intel work up that put them in the right time and place.

I can tell you from experience though that little guys do sometimes get lucky. Old corp mate of mine managed to snag one of the only Opus Luxury yachts in existence from an event to celebrate the launch of quafe ultra and that was just a matter of being in the right place at the right time and swooping in for the loot.

I do understand its dispiriting to see these CCP fleets that *always* seem to be harvested by PL and their 0.0 allies and it looks fishy - but you need to look past that really as a simple reality of the server at the moment. PL is the Eve aristocracy and when something shiny appears they will come down with their golden chariots and hunt with ivory bows like the kings and queens of old. Thats just fact and the outcome of multiple years of unchallenged moon income etc and static 0.0 napfest. There isn't much anyone can do about *that*.

But what you can do is get into a cheap clone, prep a lootstealing cloaky vessel (bomber will do nicely) and listen to the same rumours PL do. Put PL fleet commanders and personalities in your location agents. Listen to the news, inflitrate pirate intel channels. Travel fast to the site of battles and prepare to steal the loots from under PL noses with a ship that costs less than then ammo they are using.

Ordinary capsuleers (you and me) are the rats in the wainscotting of this dystopian world. The huge alliances have no respect for individuality and seek only conformity and slavish obedience from their drones. We individuals are beneath their notice and that gives us an opportunity to thieve and steal and sabotage from under the gaze of these space-kings and jealous tyrants.

Rather than whining on the forums that things are not fair (nothing is fair) go prep your loot stealing vessels and swap to a cheap clone. Swarm these engagements and steal plex and bpcs out from the grasping fingers of the aristrocracy and toast your larcenary from the shrouding darkness of the cloak while the gods of eve lament the presence of insects to steal their prizes.

But understand this. To PL and their 0.0 nap allies you are nothing. You will never be respected or accepted or dealt a fair hand. Eve is a cruel and unkind universe. So learn the arts and techniques you need to survive and prosper despite the reign of burnished tyrants that rule these stars from their immortal moon-goo empires.

Your victory little loot ninja is your continued existence and drawing breath on the morrow.

And for that I at least salute you and call you my comrade at arms.


PL/TEST were never there for the loot. We go where the fights are end of story. It is also well known that we operate with an NBSI policy just like most 0.0 alliances. It has nothing to do with lack of respect for any other player in the game it is simply PvP. Thinking otherwise is just selfish.


Why is it selfish to consider you members of a distant uncaring aristrocracy that have no care or concern for the rats in the wainscotting of Eve? I see that outlook as pure surivival mechanism and a function of wising up to the way things are. If PL/TEST is not there for the loot (true or not) it makes no difference to the dynamic I espouse. Anyone whining about these matters would be best advised to take a minor risk (clone+cheap bomber) and go loot thieving and steal from the divine immortals of the 0.0 napfests to demonstrate their independence to the server at large.

Your leaders think only in terms of 100s and 1000s of followers. To them we individuals are nothing. Beneath contempt or notice. So be it, I merely say use that dynamic to urge the pathetic individuals of eve to steal from the god-kings and chariot-warriors of 0.0 and laugh at the ranks of power.

The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom