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The New Caldari - An Observation

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Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#21 - 2014-08-30 16:49:51 UTC
Jared Haywire wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
No no no.
Not Vodka. Drinking is not professional.


Some folks might argue with you I am a professional drinker.

All personnel, abandon battle stations, run for your lives!!

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Steffanie Saissore
Tyrathlion Interstellar
#22 - 2014-08-30 17:22:07 UTC
Jude Kopenhagen wrote:
Really Steff?

But on a serious note, the answer is Hak'len.

.


Going to have to respectfully disagree with you here...Brandy.

We travel in the dark of the new moon,

A starry highway traced on the map of the sky

Arista Shahni
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#23 - 2014-08-30 17:28:22 UTC
Mika Firestorm wrote:
Arista Shahni wrote:
Mika Firestorm wrote:
But then they will drive everyone out from all the threads?..



Drive them out?

Do your *purposely* walk into a flaming trainwreck that somehow is still circling on the same track?

Just, I don't know..

.. make a new thread.


Then they will capture it too


Then take some advice from the "super evil Amarr"… Keep your dirty laundry behind your fence and don't leave it in public.

"I say that even as the holy and the righteous cannot rise beyond the highest which is in each one of you - so the wicked and the weak cannot fall lower than the lowest which is in you also.  And as a single leaf turns not yellow but with the silent knowledge of the whole tree, so the wrong-doer cannot do wrong without the hidden will of you all."

Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#24 - 2014-08-30 17:50:53 UTC
Let's see how well the whole passive aggressive bunch of you get on without us, then. I'm done with you all.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#25 - 2014-08-30 17:57:10 UTC
Don't let a gallentean manipulate you, Tuulinen-haan!

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Jinari Otsito
Otsito Mining and Manufacture
#26 - 2014-08-30 18:07:59 UTC
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
Let's see how well the whole passive aggressive bunch of you get on without us, then. I'm done with you all.


... wut. Who?

Prime Node. Ask me about augmentation.

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#27 - 2014-08-30 18:18:06 UTC
Jinari Otsito wrote:
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
Let's see how well the whole passive aggressive bunch of you get on without us, then. I'm done with you all.


... wut. Who?


Jinari Otsito wrote:
wut


I feel your nurse will be unhappy when will know that you are using NeoCom again.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Utsukushi Shi
State War Academy
Caldari State
#28 - 2014-08-31 03:10:13 UTC
That was a lot of words to say Kim talks too much and Stitcher is a pedantic old man.

But thanks for pointlessly providing another thread for the arguments you find so distasteful.
Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Doomheim
#29 - 2014-08-31 03:48:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Veikitamo Gesakaarin
I have a theory that much of it stems from a lack of personal coping mechanisms required to fully adjust to being a freelance capsuleer. An inability to accept or recognize the system of life one lives under when one volunteers to be registered under the auspices of CONCORD. A form of self-projection upon others that requires one to tell themselves that it is those freelance capsuleers who are the craven ones, who are immoral, who profit from violence, whose hands are awash with blood, it is those ones that are villains but not themselves. Themselves are different, like a single special and unique snowflake, separate and distinct from all the others: they tell themselves and others that they have different reasons, ideological reasons, moral reasons, ethical reasons, religious reasons, as to what it is they do.

That they have these reasons then justifies in their mind that they are heroes, and all the rest they are the villains and not themselves. Their discourses then become much like a person who contributes to an act of charity or other supposed good deed, but then goes on to tell as many people as possible about it in order to receive the personal validation that they are a good person. The paradigm is the same that they seek to impress they are Caldari (Or indeed any other form of identity) not so much out of interest in a real discussion but so that they receive a personal validation and thus perpetuate their own cognitive dissonance. I would say such behaviour is fundamentally disingenuous, but in the end understandable for those that lack the effective coping mechanisms to lead the lives of violence of a freelance capsuleer.

Onerous perhaps, those unable to abandon delusion and welcome reality, but I do not think it is behaviour particularly confined to Caldari in particular when I parse IGS discussions.

Kurilaivonen|Concern

Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#30 - 2014-08-31 04:02:12 UTC
You say "pedantic" like it's a bad thing.

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders

Kyoko Sakoda
Achura-Waschi Exchange
Monyusaiya Industry Trade Group
#31 - 2014-08-31 05:31:38 UTC
Look, another rhetorical black hole on GalNet. And not the good kind that makes your ship go faster.
Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#32 - 2014-08-31 05:37:31 UTC
Kyoko Sakoda wrote:
Look, another rhetorical black hole on GalNet. And not the good kind that makes your ship go faster.

The Galnet IS a black hole. Many a capsuleer forgot to undock because they are hypnotised by the furrier videos they found on Galnet.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#33 - 2014-08-31 07:25:24 UTC
Kyoko Sakoda wrote:
Look, another rhetorical black hole on GalNet. And not the good kind that makes your ship go faster.

Just schemes of evil gallenteans

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Bai'xao Meiyi
#34 - 2014-08-31 10:13:15 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Unlike federal rats, we don't enforce our way of life.
We love it, and we are PROUD to be Caldari. We have our own pariahs, who ran away from State to hide in nullsecs and wormholes from our way of life, and who don't fight for what is dear to all Caldari. But they are only a couple of insignificant persons.
We, Caldari, love our State, our society and we glorify our superiority.

Unlike gallenteans, though, our superiority and our way of life is for us only, and we don't bring it with arms into your houses like gallenteans do with their democrazies. We don't bomb homes of individuals and corporations of outcasts, that leave us, because they hurt themselves already by separating themselves from our glorious culture to live somewhere in Maker-forsaken wormholes just to not do their duty to common good.

Unlike gallenteans, we don't care what cultures others have. It is not our business, we just enjoy and glorify our culture.

But if you don't like us talking how it is good to be Caldari, we could easily talk about how disgusting and repulsive gallenteans, their culture and their Federation are.


Except for all of those forcibly evicted indigenous populations within the Caldari State's borders who are booted from their homes the minute it's realized to be profitable.
Ava Starfire
Khushakor Clan
#35 - 2014-08-31 11:43:45 UTC
This thread is now about enslaved Matari.

"There is no strength in numbers; have no such misconception." -Jayka Vofur, "Warfare in the North"

Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#36 - 2014-08-31 12:12:23 UTC
Ava Starfire wrote:
This thread is now about enslaved Matari.


So, where's my beating stick? I have a great need to beat up the dead equine in the middle of this thread.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#37 - 2014-08-31 12:17:52 UTC
Bai'xao Meiyi wrote:

Except for all of those forcibly evicted indigenous populations within the Caldari State's borders who are booted from their homes the minute it's realized to be profitable.

Nobody is just "booted" in the State, and eviction doesn't look like that.
You see, the State is for peoples, and peoples, who form the State should work for the State. When some peoples don't work for the State and prefer working for themselves, they don't need the State and thus the State doesn't need them.
When the State doesn't need them, the State doesn't provide anything to them. All the services the State provide, including law and security, are unavailable for them, unless they pay for each service separately its "export" price. And, of course, will find somehow funds for it.
Otherwise, all State doors are closed to them, even State citizens don't consider them as people. If the State boots them - it is only from streets, because vagrancy is prohibited. Otherwise, they just leave themselves.
We don't kick them out from what they have - they abandon it themselves, becoming exiles and outcasts. Only because THEY didn't want to be part of our society. It is completely their choice and consequences lie on their shoulders.

To understand how it works, you don't even have to look inside Caldari society, it happens among capsuleers as well. Look, for example, at Mr. Stitcher. He lives not in the State, but in a wormhole. Did anyone boot him out?... No, nobody has booted him out, he just left us, because here there is no place for him.
While Caldari capsuleers were defending the State, flying in fleets to defend out systems or to attack occupied by enemy zones, he has chosen to not be part of us, part of the State, he didn't want to be Caldari, and thus he is not among us.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Vincintius Agrippa
Crimson Serpent Syndicate
#38 - 2014-09-01 02:39:49 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Bai'xao Meiyi wrote:

Except for all of those forcibly evicted indigenous populations within the Caldari State's borders who are booted from their homes the minute it's realized to be profitable.

Nobody is just "booted" in the State, and eviction doesn't look like that.
You see, the State is for peoples, and peoples, who form the State should work for the State. When some peoples don't work for the State and prefer working for themselves, they don't need the State and thus the State doesn't need them.
When the State doesn't need them, the State doesn't provide anything to them. All the services the State provide, including law and security, are unavailable for them, unless they pay for each service separately its "export" price. And, of course, will find somehow funds for it.
Otherwise, all State doors are closed to them, even State citizens don't consider them as people. If the State boots them - it is only from streets, because vagrancy is prohibited. Otherwise, they just leave themselves.
We don't kick them out from what they have - they abandon it themselves, becoming exiles and outcasts. Only because THEY didn't want to be part of our society. It is completely their choice and consequences lie on their shoulders.

To understand how it works, you don't even have to look inside Caldari society, it happens among capsuleers as well. Look, for example, at Mr. Stitcher. He lives not in the State, but in a wormhole. Did anyone boot him out?... No, nobody has booted him out, he just left us, because here there is no place for him.
While Caldari capsuleers were defending the State, flying in fleets to defend out systems or to attack occupied by enemy zones, he has chosen to not be part of us, part of the State, he didn't want to be Caldari, and thus he is not among us.


Speak it citizen Kim!
May the Gallente scum die at their keyboards, foaming at the mouth and through the eyeballs.
Only YOU can prevent internet bullying!
Ayallah
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#39 - 2014-09-01 03:07:34 UTC
Ava Starfire wrote:
This thread is now about enslaved Matari.


Please, do not.

Goddess of the IGS

As strength goes.

Skye Nico
#40 - 2014-09-01 03:15:01 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:

While Caldari capsuleers were defending the State, flying in fleets to defend out systems or to attack occupied by enemy zones, he has chosen to not be part of us, part of the State, he didn't want to be Caldari, and thus he is not among us.


This is a load of ****. It is legally impossible to be a State citizen if you are not born there. It does not matter if you 'want to be Caldari' or not.