EVE General Discussion

By the time CCP gets sold,EVE will already be on it's way to the grave and selling will be Hillmar trying to get some of his eggs out of the falling basket. If EA buys it, it will be for 2 reason. 1- Get the IP for potential future games. 2- Try to pull it out of the hole with investment few company beside EA are able to dump in a game. Most likely number 1.

I WANT KIROV ARCS!!!

People are used to the Eve-model of failcascade. RL company is not Eve-O.

That being said, things need to change. Real effort needs to be put forth to fix the major underlying issues with CCP or it will fail.

Note I have said CCP and not Eve-O.

Thanks to Atli Mar Sveinsson, those who went before him, and those who will go after him for working at CCP Games. Good luck in your future endeavors.

EA would never buy CCP, Icelandtic government would never allow it and I'm sure the Volcanoes of Iceland would destroy the world in retribution and the Vikings would come back from the dead and raid all of Europe in anger.

I sure hope this nursery rhyme is not apt :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0ooQv7oHvw

Edit:

Joking apart, Eve Online will do fine so long as CCP never lose sight of the fact that it is us, the 'spaceship' core players who keep them in business and that anything else, Valkyrie etc is and must remain secondary to the spaceship game.

The biggest obstacle for CCP to overcome during its 'second decade' will be CCP itself and its lack of focus (EVE, Dust 514, Legion, Valkyrie, WoD) or willpower to finish what they start (ambulation, PI, relevant interaction between Dust and EVE, again WoD).

CCP needs decisive leadership, a unified vision for the future, goals that can be achieved with the skills they have at their disposal, an awareness of skills they don't possess, a strict time schedule in which to achieve milestones, competent responsible managers that know how to motivate a team, ...

All of the aforementioned will be prerequisites for EVE to make it into its third decade.

And you show why the internet makes people stupid.

All that shows is less people logging in at the same time, that proves nothing about subscriptions and the like. For example, I can easily set a month skill on my three accounts, and either hardly touch eve or not log on at all and still pay a sub during that time. eve-offline will show -3 people for the month. Does that mean my account is unsubbed? no it doesn't.

In addition, ccp released there finances for the first 6 months, if you ignore the issue about WoD closing, ccp lost around 200k (off the top of my head) if you break that down to its simplest form 200k/6 month = ~$33333.33 / 15 = 2,222 so they are down 2,222 subscriptions. 500k(last year)-2k is nothing.

The issue however, is it could be more. As we do not know what % of the total game revenue is subscription and what % is dust/plex/whatever. Nor do we know if sony pays CCP on the back end. I.e. at the end of the year they get a lump sum from sony for all the AUR sales.

Plus, you had this thing going on in dust after the Rouge Wedding where people were demanding refunds. So depending on if and how much sony refunded that also could of impacted that as well. Based on raw numbers, CCP has barley lost anyone.

Granted they could be down on TQ but way up in plex and other sales, or way up in china. But as I can only prove ccp lost about 2k players in 6 months... shrugs

Go back to bed.

:P

You can spin it anyway you want son, but the reality is, average players is the only metric we really have to measure game success/failure. You really think average player numbers have dropped, and more people are subscribed?

CCP is a private company, they can make it look however they want to make themselves look better. But keep believing....Lots of people believe in fairy tales....