EVE General Discussion

iv heard this recommended a couple of times now, must look into it, linky?

Awww, the OP got changed.
You were right though OP, wardecs are pretty much for griefing. Most wardecs are set up against corps that either will not or cannot retaliate. In a few instances this if for killboard padding, but in the majority of cases it's to generate tears from a given target. Of course the aggressors would never admit to this and will personally attack you, threaten you with wars, tell you they will kill it forward if you continue to have opinions of your own and place bounties on your head. None of that changes the simple fact though that war decs are terrible and need to be looked at. They should generate combat, not one sided ganks, but the question is and always has been, how can it be changed to do just that?

Stay away from trade hubs find a nice little system about 8-10. Jumps from any hub and your less likely to find war targets

HiSec is broken. It needs to be more dangerous, not safer. If you made HiSec even safer, only the most hardcore players would ever venture into other areas, and EVE in fact would die as safety is boring and players would have little incentive to interact and would eventually quit the game.

Just when one guy gets it, another one steps in to take his place. The ride never ends.

The answer to this question is, the 'victims' need to stop being terrible at EVE. No amount of game mechanics (within reason) will save them from themselves.

How about you do your part instead of comaplining? When we wardec you last time you just dried and rand in circles. That was the only thing preventing real fights from happening. Do not blame others on your own incompetence.

Do not join a corporation

Having learned a lot in a short time thanks to this thread, I see I was wrong about a few (more than a few things.)
Firstly: Just because I don't like being the victim of a play style (Not saying I don't like the playstyle itself, because who knows, a few months or years down the road I may find myself trying it) that doesn't make it griefing.

Secondly, coming on here to whine isn't going to do me any favors on a social level or fix my problem, even though in this case it did net me a wealth of knowledge.

Third: **** this game is complex. I mean, damn. Also: I didn't know the difference between killing and podding (I thought podding was destroying your ship while leaving you in a pod, while killing was in turn destroying that pod. Guess I had it backwards.)

I'm not going to delete my post, I believe in posterity and learning from my mistakes, and this thread was indeed a wealth of knowledge. May it serve as benefit to others as well.

Below is my original post:


I'm a relatively new player (20-ish days) and fell into a corporation that A: Had several of my IRL friends in it, and B: was very friendly and supportive of new people.

Anyway, another corporation, one that seems to be mainly made up of PVP players who have been in the game for several years, declared war on us. Well, they declared war on like ten corporations at once, all of them similar newbie type corporations to us. Well, it's not the first time this has happened, so we did our best to avoid them and try to go about our day.

These guys were absolutely merciless though. We had one player, maybe been in the game for a week, get killed (Not just podded, but killed) 5 times in the course of an hour. Pretty sure he quit the game. They camp out where we have our offices, they seem to always be lurking on our most common routes, and they even sometimes appear out of nowhere 20-ish jumps away from those locations and get is when we're in route doing missions. One guy got me about 17 jumps away while I was doing security missions in Amarr space, I look at his profile and he joined the corp that day, and appeared in my backside. I get away with my pod and he sends me the message "GF bra" then proceeds to stalk the system I'm in until I log out for the night.

However, the back-breaking straw is: The EXACT same minute we get the "retracts war" notification, we also get a "Declares War" notification from another corporation. We look, and it lists the same guys that've been beating the tar out of us as the admins of this corp. Looking at their employment history, it seems the entire group of them have been corp surfing between the same four or five names for a long time, and they use this as a way to "extend" wars and continue to torment the same people.


They don't even loot our remains. They pop in, blow us up, then stalk us. Also, sometimes the game shows them as "offline" in the contacts list (added them to get a "warn list" notification when they come online) but they still show up and kill us.


This is griefing. All they want is to kill new players in high sec, and the game is handing it to them. I honestly don't know what recourse we have left other than buy enough Plex to dump billions of ISK into bounties and hope they get the message.