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Ginger Barbarella
#21 - 2014-08-25 00:57:29 UTC
Ya know what's really sad? CCP introduces a great new idea, and before it's even released they tell the community what's necessary to defeat them and fits are already flowing on the boards.

Pathetic.

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Mike Adoulin
Happys Happy Hamster Hunting Club
#22 - 2014-08-25 04:47:03 UTC
Bastion Arzi wrote:
will t2 frigs be allowed in the burner missions?



You can use t1, t2, and faction/pirate frigs.

You can even use Ventures/Prospects if you want..:)

AFAIK anyway.

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Lugalzagezi666
#23 - 2014-08-25 05:50:16 UTC
Ginger Barbarella wrote:
Ya know what's really sad? CCP introduces a great new idea, and before it's even released they tell the community what's necessary to defeat them and fits are already flowing on the boards.

Pathetic.

As long as these missions are usual static pve it is completely irrelevant if ccp gives info about them or not.
Sandrestal
Pakistani Taxi Drivers
#24 - 2014-08-26 12:06:07 UTC
Well today's the day so lets see the results of what we will think will work .
Bastion Arzi
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#25 - 2014-08-26 15:20:15 UTC
has anyone got one of these yet? ive done a few level 4 now and nothing yet
Lugalzagezi666
#26 - 2014-08-26 16:15:06 UTC
Bastion Arzi wrote:
has anyone got one of these yet? ive done a few level 4 now and nothing yet

Got blood, sansha and serpentis burner on tq in like 12 normal l4s, no need to hurry on them tbh, because rewards are still low.

If you dont have skills (sp), right ship and right fit, they are quite hard. If you got skills, right ship and right fit with some pimpage, they are quite easy with little more risk of dying if you mess up and 100% of dying when you dc. Even with good fit they still take quite a time to kill, especially blood burner (like 5 mins of shooting at single frig).

If you have alt that has sp and can also fly right ship with right frig, they are trivially easy.
Bastion Arzi
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#27 - 2014-08-26 18:05:41 UTC
what are the rewards?
Lugalzagezi666
#28 - 2014-08-26 18:22:04 UTC
Bastion Arzi wrote:
what are the rewards?


Mission isk and lp rewards are based on dynamic system depending how fast players do them and it will take some time to stabilize (atm is not worth undocking for it if you are only after isk/h). Bounty of burner npc is 5m isk and there is small chance of faction loot (only thing I got so far was sansha small laser crystal).
Sandrestal
Pakistani Taxi Drivers
#29 - 2014-08-26 18:26:08 UTC
Looks like my idea of using a wolf needs some work. At 93% resist for em I was a bit surprised how fast the blood frig went through my armor. Even though I used a nos my cap was drained fast by the frig. Once my scram and web stopped, I was recording no damage to the frig even tho I had 150's with fleet em. Shop died soon after. Back to the drawing board.
Bastion Arzi
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#30 - 2014-08-26 20:03:03 UTC
interesting. ive been doing level 4's for a while now and still no burner mission. am i missing something?
Lady Naween
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#31 - 2014-08-26 21:56:26 UTC
Bastion Arzi wrote:
interesting. ive been doing level 4's for a while now and still no burner mission. am i missing something?


random is random. just keep at it
Celthric Kanerian
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#32 - 2014-08-27 20:16:00 UTC
The burner mission rat has a chance to drop faction loot. Rare, but the chance is there.
I tried using a Imperial Slicer, but it was ripped to pieces eventhough I had 75% EM resis - 65% therm and 200 dps...
Also had a web on me, but catching a Sansha rat is close to impossible if you don't catch it in the very beginning with two webs.
It's pretty ******* nuts.
James Baboli
Warp to Pharmacy
#33 - 2014-08-27 20:51:46 UTC
Personally looking forward to 250DPS AC fit MSE-tanked jaguars.

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Torskelrak
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#34 - 2014-08-27 21:55:14 UTC
Idea of burner missions is to be in a small group / gang aint it?
Rabe Raptor
The Conference Elite
The Conference
#35 - 2014-08-27 22:18:58 UTC
Tried one out just to see if PVE is fun yet. Used a worm with a tracking disruptor and rotated my drones intelligently. Smashed the **** out of the rat in about 2 1/2 minutes.

4/10.

Going back to ganking.

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erg cz
Federal Jegerouns
#36 - 2014-08-28 12:20:07 UTC
I've seen few records of burner mission and it seems to me, that this fit could work:

[Incursus, burner mission]
Federation Navy Armor Thermic Hardener
Armor Kinetic Hardener II
Small Armor Repairer II
Small Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste

Stasis Webifier II
Experimental 1MN Afterburner I
Small Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 400

Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S

Small Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Small Nanobot Accelerator I
Small Hybrid Burst Aerator I

Hobgoblin II x1

Everything cold it reps over 200 DPS and produces almost 200 DPS itself. No need to point - thats the point. Webbed burners seem to have speed of some 400 m/s or less, so AB should be enough. Hardeners should be always mission specific. Hot hardeners and booster it can tank 223 incomming DPS and stay cap stable. Hot turrets mean 224 DPS for almost 2 minutes, where 19 comes from drone and from what I've heard burners kill drones first. Still you have over 200 DPS with Void S (1,7 KM optimal + 1,6 km falloff)

Thats all for about some 10 - 15 milions ISK.

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Lugalzagezi666
#37 - 2014-08-29 07:18:26 UTC
erg cz wrote:
I've seen few records of burner mission and it seems to me, that this fit could work:
[Incursus, burner mission]


And against which burner?
Gurista - you will never catch him (3,6km/s mwd, kites at 38k).
Sansha - you will never catch him (3km/s ab, kites at 15k, webs).
Blood - you will be neuted in 20s (neut range 10k).
Serpentis - you will never catch him (kites at 11k with daredevil web).
Angel - you wont be able to track him (orbits at 600m with 10 or so sig radius, he is faster than you, so no "keep at range").

Some rail fit might work angainst serpentis, but Im not sure if it has enough dps to kill him then and dual cap booster fit might work against blood, but Im not sure you will survive for 5+ minutes it will take to kill him. Mwd fit might work against gurista, but you will need to run mwd all the time, so you need more cap and bit more speed. Im not sure if rail fit would be able to kill sansha one with its dps (or tracking it at all without 16k webs) and I cant see blaster fit tracking angel guy at all with only one web.

Also small ancillary rep is nice for inflating eft tank numbers, but useless for burners, since every fight will last much longer, than nanite paste in rep.
Bastion Arzi
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#38 - 2014-08-29 07:29:12 UTC
Lugalzagezi666 wrote:

Gurista - you will never catch him (3,6km/s mwd, kites at 38k).
Sansha - you will never catch him (3km/s ab, kites at 15k, webs).
Blood - you will be neuted in 20s (neut range 10k).
Serpentis - you will never catch him (kites at 11k with daredevil web).
Angel - you wont be able to track him (orbits at 600m with 10 or so sig radius, he is faster than you, so no "keep at range").

This info is golden
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