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High Sec Hauling/Mining Kills - TY CCP for No Protection

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Duchess Amarrian
Tesla Aerospace Industries
#1 - 2014-08-27 11:43:09 UTC
Last night my hauling ship got blown sky high. I was flying a prorator and doing some deliveries. The person that shot me down organised it really well by setting up contracts and sucking in the person accepting the contract. I wont go into detail here. As i was making the delivery and just 1 second from being docked into station my ship got blown sky high. From what ? a minmitar Battleship that was so many km's away. It took 2 people to stop me.

I keep hearing that ccp wil be doing something about this. I've just had enough of it. Seriously I'm trying to find some fun in this game and seeing that the others always have the edge over miners and haulers in high sec is a real joke. I don't mind if it had happened in low sec and null but when your playing by ccp rules to me it seems there are no rules and high sec is really a joke.

At the very least give miners and haulers some big guns like you give others and maybe will balance things well.

The two that got me are "Luukje" and "Natural CloneKiller". I put up a big bounty on Luk so enjoy your hunting.

cheers
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#2 - 2014-08-27 11:44:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Scipio Artelius
You can do something about it yourself. No need to ask CCP for help.

You already have big guns too. Just like the other guy does. You just choose not to train for them, or not to use them. That's not the fault of the other guy who is just having fun. He doesn't mean anything against you personally.
Belt Scout
Thread Lockaholics Anonymous
#3 - 2014-08-27 11:46:57 UTC
Gettin in early on this one.

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They say most of your brain shuts down on the EvE forums. All but the impatient side, and the sarcastic side. No wonder I'm still awake.

**This IS my main so STFU.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#4 - 2014-08-27 11:49:55 UTC
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#5 - 2014-08-27 11:50:26 UTC
You were flying a Prorator and you were not cloaked up despite hauling a contract with massive collateral.

Seriously, if you have a load like this, fly your ship like everyone is out to get you because probably that is actually the case. You had the ship to do so and still you failed. CCP already gave you everything you needed to protect yourself and you did not apply the cloak. Thus: POP!

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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#6 - 2014-08-27 11:51:15 UTC
I would LOVE to know how you managed to die in a Prorator.

I am guessing you were afk.

Oh, and as for you hearing that CCP will "put a stop to this", citation needed.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Velicitia
XS Tech
#7 - 2014-08-27 11:51:22 UTC
All those low-slots you have ARE NOT for expanded cargohold II ...

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
Milan Nantucket
Doomheim
#8 - 2014-08-27 11:54:03 UTC
When you dont have defensive stuff in your fit what do you expect. Drop two of the carohold expanders and put n a dc2 and a bulkhead2

Then again you already knew that and chose not to bother.
Yang Aurilen
State War Academy
Caldari State
#9 - 2014-08-27 11:55:15 UTC
Oh lol. BTW you got shot at by a tornado which sports battleship grade weapons on a battlecruiser hull. Still your loses are small time so stop crying. Also bounties are useless really. I keep putting bounties on myself just to be a 133337 pilot.

Post with your NPC alt main and not your main main alt!
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#10 - 2014-08-27 11:55:57 UTC
Without going into the details, its hard to know what the "it" or "this" you want to stop is.

Do you mean being shot at?

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#11 - 2014-08-27 11:57:08 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Without going into the details, its hard to know what the "it" or "this" you want to stop is.

Do you mean being shot at?


#PvPSlider

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Derrick Miles
Death Rabbit Ky Oneida
#12 - 2014-08-27 11:57:19 UTC
Welcome to the Yin and Yang of Eve, where those that seek to live a peaceful existence are nevertheless in constant conflict with those that seek their death and destruction.
Velicitia
XS Tech
#13 - 2014-08-27 11:58:29 UTC
Yang Aurilen wrote:
Oh lol. BTW you got shot at by a tornado which sports battleship grade weapons on a battlecruiser hull. Still your loses are small time so stop crying. Also bounties are useless really. I keep putting bounties on myself just to be a 133337 pilot.


Speaking of which ... someone cleared mine a while back ... I should go find someone to bounty me again.

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#14 - 2014-08-27 11:58:49 UTC
Velicitia wrote:
All those low-slots you have ARE NOT for expanded cargohold II ...

Milan Nantucket wrote:
When you dont have defensive stuff in your fit what do you expect. Drop two of the carohold expanders and put n a dc2 and a bulkhead2

Then again you already knew that and chose not to bother.

You seriously propose a *tank* on a *Prorator*? You've never flown a Blockade Runner, did you? Your tank is your cloak. Never getting locked is the only thing that will save you. Putting bulkheads in there that will make you get caught more easily is the exact opposite of saving your ass.

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True Sight
Deep Freeze Industries
#15 - 2014-08-27 12:00:31 UTC  |  Edited by: True Sight
1) If a courier contract looks too good to be true - it almost certainly is. If you accepted some contract to move something small through safe space and being offered many millions to do it then something is up.

2) If you were suspecting something bad, you should have first created an insta-warp out of the station you picked the package up from, in order to guarantee you could safely warp out when undocking

3) You could have considered using a better tanked ship, such as a heavy transport (with the right modules) to reduce the possibility of suicide ganking

4) You could have accepted the courier contract on a different character, or hauled it on a different character, which is generally a smart move when accepting public courier contracts even when they don't look too good to be true.

Finally, you are wrong, CCP have never stated they're going to do anything/change this, this is part of eve, you just got scammed by someone for quite probably getting way too greedy and now you're here complaining rather than accepting your own responsibility. There is 50 different ways this could have gone entirely differently.
Xuixien
Solar Winds Security Solutions
#16 - 2014-08-27 12:00:41 UTC
Why should CCP hold your hand and protect you? CONCORD, which is OP, already patrols HiSec to serve as a deterrent, exacting absolute vengeance on criminals. Note that it's "HiSec", not "MaxSec" - there is no absolute security in EVE. You consent to PvP each time you undock. Do not fly what you can't afford to lose and consider every ship you undock to already be dead.

That said there are many steps you can take. The first step is setting up an "instadock". The 2nd step is specific to the ship you were in - L2CLOAK.

Epic Space Cat, Horsegirl, Philanthropist
Zero Sum Gain
FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDOOOOOOOOM
#17 - 2014-08-27 12:03:54 UTC
It's unusual for the trap to be at the delivering station, as you could chance to warp into docking range or have made a docking bookmark (which I suggest you do in the future). How close to station were you when you left warp?
Prince Kobol
#18 - 2014-08-27 12:06:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Prince Kobol
Give the gankers some credit.

First they found somebody stupid enough to fall for their courier contract. Then they waited just before you docked as that is when you are most vulnerable .

You see you can make insta undocks, you can warp whilst cloaked, you can make afe spots until they come out of your ass but you can not do anything to make the docking process quicker.

Once you land on station, you will de-cloak and your barely moving.. basically a sitting duck. The gankers basically have a few seconds to make you go boom and that is all they need.

Not going to say anything else as True Sight has covered it

Well played to them Big smile
Horus H'kaan
Grand Theft Enyo
#19 - 2014-08-27 12:07:25 UTC
HTFU

I'm in your mission, stealin' your loots.
Velicitia
XS Tech
#20 - 2014-08-27 12:10:27 UTC
Abrazzar wrote:
Velicitia wrote:
All those low-slots you have ARE NOT for expanded cargohold II ...

Milan Nantucket wrote:
When you dont have defensive stuff in your fit what do you expect. Drop two of the carohold expanders and put n a dc2 and a bulkhead2

Then again you already knew that and chose not to bother.

You seriously propose a *tank* on a *Prorator*? You've never flown a Blockade Runner, did you? Your tank is your cloak. Never getting locked is the only thing that will save you. Putting bulkheads in there that will make you get caught more easily is the exact opposite of saving your ass.


Always get the Amarrian ones backwards Oops ... although, if you're "one second from being docked" as the OP was, a cloak isn't gonna exactly work.

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
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