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Why the push to force people to work together?

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metalravenous
Pyramid Celestial
#1 - 2014-08-27 10:23:55 UTC
Why is CCP so Hell bent on making people work together, be it missions, incursions, SOV etc in this game?

You can play EVE with minimal risk and interaction by avoiding any sort of PVP and being smart about things. It just makes sense if you want to get the job done right that you do it yourself. People already have multiple accounts in order to avoid having to deal with corp thieves and griefers or even having to rely on others to light cynos for you.

Personally I think the majority of the player base would prefer just to do their own thing. Burner missions are being used to force feed interactions that no one really wants to have and are just forcing people to get more accounts (tools for the job) and in turn making people use their hard earned isk to buy more expensive PLEX.

CCP stop trying to tell me I have to play with other people to have fun.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#2 - 2014-08-27 10:26:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Ramona McCandless
Here you go with the naughty words taken out;

The rewards are greater when you take more risk

More team-mates means more risk, you saavy?

If you dont want to play with others, theres plenty of single player space games out there.

I highly recommend any of the X series except Rebirth.

Ramona's Log SuppleMental: Why should those of us who like flying in attack wings in PvE and PvP bow to what loners want?

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann

Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#3 - 2014-08-27 10:26:52 UTC
Because it's a multi player game.
And you are the content.
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#4 - 2014-08-27 10:27:25 UTC
Meh.

From my perspective, it just makes sense if you want to get the job done right, that you do it with other people.

I don't really see CCP forcing anyone to do anything in particular. Your choice.
metalravenous
Pyramid Celestial
#5 - 2014-08-27 10:32:28 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
metalravenous wrote:
Why is CCP so Hell bent on making people work together, be it missions, incursions, SOV etc in this game?

You can play EVE with minimal risk and interaction...

CCP stop trying to tell me I have to play with other people to have fun.



Its a multiplayer game, dimbulb

The rewards are greater when you take more risk

More team-mates means more risk, you saavy?

If you dont want to play with others, theres plenty of single player space games out there.

I highly recommend any of the X series except Rebirth.


You are totally missing the point which is there is a large portion of the player base that doesn't want to deal with name callers like yourself.
metalravenous
Pyramid Celestial
#6 - 2014-08-27 10:33:55 UTC
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Meh.

From my perspective, it just makes sense if you want to get the job done right, that you do it with other people.

I don't really see CCP forcing anyone to do anything in particular. Your choice.


I have been scammed one too many times to see things this way. I am guessing as well you never had to wait a week to get some cynos lit because the guy who did it was in another time zone. when you wait for others you are paying CCP for nothing.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#7 - 2014-08-27 10:35:29 UTC
metalravenous wrote:

Personally I think the majority of the player base would prefer just to do their own thing.
also,
Why do you think this?
I use alts to facilitate my efficiency as part of a larger group, to essentially be two people in a group, not to replace anyone .
Everyone I know who dose this will have a similar reason.
metalravenous
Pyramid Celestial
#8 - 2014-08-27 10:39:58 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
metalravenous wrote:

Personally I think the majority of the player base would prefer just to do their own thing.
also,
Why do you think this?
I use alts to facilitate my efficiency as part of a larger group, to essentially be two people in a group, not to replace anyone .
Everyone I know who dose this will have a similar reason.


In any alliance I have ever been in the majority of people do not get into fleets they just keep ratting or mining or if forced to it will log off. No one really wants to do fleets even the people that go to them.

Maximum efficiency is you doing everything yourself at your own pace and in your own time, thereby replacing the need for anyone, just saying.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#9 - 2014-08-27 10:40:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Ramona McCandless
metalravenous wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
metalravenous wrote:
Why is CCP so Hell bent on making people work together, be it missions, incursions, SOV etc in this game?

You can play EVE with minimal risk and interaction...

CCP stop trying to tell me I have to play with other people to have fun.



Its a multiplayer game, dimbulb

The rewards are greater when you take more risk

More team-mates means more risk, you saavy?

If you dont want to play with others, theres plenty of single player space games out there.

I highly recommend any of the X series except Rebirth.


You are totally missing the point which is there is a large portion of the player base that doesn't want to deal with name callers like yourself.


Out of my entire point, the one you fixated on was the one where I suggested I was doubtful of your intellect? If you must know here is why;
metalravenous wrote:

I have been scammed one too many times to see things this way.


Sir, I call a spade a spade. If you stopped being so over-sensitive and read the rest of the reply, and could concentrate on answering what exactly is wrong with my own supposition, I could actually try to understand your point of view.

As it is, you seem to want EvE to stop being an MMO and become a single player game, and seem to be suggesting that the majority of people agree?

Is this a true reading of your OP?

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann

Darth Bladius
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#10 - 2014-08-27 10:41:34 UTC
metalravenous wrote:
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Meh.

From my perspective, it just makes sense if you want to get the job done right, that you do it with other people.

I don't really see CCP forcing anyone to do anything in particular. Your choice.


I have been scammed one too many times to see things this way. I am guessing as well you never had to wait a week to get some cynos lit because the guy who did it was in another time zone. when you wait for others you are paying CCP for nothing.


You can´t avoid multiplayer aspects in a purely multiplayer game.

Plus if you are smart or just an average character, you won´t be scammed...
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#11 - 2014-08-27 10:42:04 UTC
metalravenous wrote:

Maximum efficiency is you doing everything yourself at your own pace and in your own time


No it isnt

Otherwise the production line would not have replaced the craftsman in general manufacturing.

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann

metalravenous
Pyramid Celestial
#12 - 2014-08-27 10:42:20 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
metalravenous wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
metalravenous wrote:
Why is CCP so Hell bent on making people work together, be it missions, incursions, SOV etc in this game?

You can play EVE with minimal risk and interaction...

CCP stop trying to tell me I have to play with other people to have fun.



Its a multiplayer game, dimbulb

The rewards are greater when you take more risk

More team-mates means more risk, you saavy?

If you dont want to play with others, theres plenty of single player space games out there.

I highly recommend any of the X series except Rebirth.


You are totally missing the point which is there is a large portion of the player base that doesn't want to deal with name callers like yourself.


Out of my entire point, the one you fixated on was the one where I suggested I was doubtful of your intellect?

Sir, I call a spade a spade. If you stopped being so over-sensitive and read the rest of the reply, and could concentrate on answering what exactly is wrong with my own supposition, I could actually try to understand your point of view.

As it is, you seem to want EvE to stop being an MMO and become a single player game, and seem to be suggesting that the majority of people agree?

Is this a true reading of your OP?


I stopped reading or caring what you had to say after the name calling started. If you want to edit your post and try again I might as well.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#13 - 2014-08-27 10:45:59 UTC
metalravenous wrote:


I stopped reading or caring what you had to say after the name calling started. If you want to edit your post and try again I might as well.


Done.

Go for it.

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann

metalravenous
Pyramid Celestial
#14 - 2014-08-27 10:47:08 UTC
Darth Bladius wrote:
metalravenous wrote:
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Meh.

From my perspective, it just makes sense if you want to get the job done right, that you do it with other people.

I don't really see CCP forcing anyone to do anything in particular. Your choice.


I have been scammed one too many times to see things this way. I am guessing as well you never had to wait a week to get some cynos lit because the guy who did it was in another time zone. when you wait for others you are paying CCP for nothing.


You can´t avoid multiplayer aspects in a purely multiplayer game.

Plus if you are smart or just an average character, you won´t be scammed...


May not be able to avoid but can minimize interactions.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#15 - 2014-08-27 10:49:02 UTC
metalravenous wrote:
Darth Bladius wrote:
metalravenous wrote:
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Meh.

From my perspective, it just makes sense if you want to get the job done right, that you do it with other people.

I don't really see CCP forcing anyone to do anything in particular. Your choice.


I have been scammed one too many times to see things this way. I am guessing as well you never had to wait a week to get some cynos lit because the guy who did it was in another time zone. when you wait for others you are paying CCP for nothing.


You can´t avoid multiplayer aspects in a purely multiplayer game.

Plus if you are smart or just an average character, you won´t be scammed...


May not be able to avoid but can minimize interactions.

Why?
metalravenous
Pyramid Celestial
#16 - 2014-08-27 10:49:57 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
metalravenous wrote:

Maximum efficiency is you doing everything yourself at your own pace and in your own time


No it isnt

Otherwise the production line would not have replaced the craftsman in general manufacturing.


Your comparison doesn't make any sense you aren't building a house you are clicking buttons.
metalravenous
Pyramid Celestial
#17 - 2014-08-27 10:50:46 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
metalravenous wrote:
Darth Bladius wrote:
metalravenous wrote:
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Meh.

From my perspective, it just makes sense if you want to get the job done right, that you do it with other people.

I don't really see CCP forcing anyone to do anything in particular. Your choice.


I have been scammed one too many times to see things this way. I am guessing as well you never had to wait a week to get some cynos lit because the guy who did it was in another time zone. when you wait for others you are paying CCP for nothing.


You can´t avoid multiplayer aspects in a purely multiplayer game.

Plus if you are smart or just an average character, you won´t be scammed...


May not be able to avoid but can minimize interactions.

Why?


Because you don't want to deal with other people?
Seven Koskanaiken
Shadow Legions.
SONS of BANE
#18 - 2014-08-27 10:53:13 UTC
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Meh.

From my perspective, it just makes sense if you want to get the job done right, that you do it with other people.


"Got a 10/10, anyone wanna come?"

"Sure, let me just get ship/fit ship/take dog out/feed baby/change the spare tyre....."

"Never mind.......*signup new account*"
metalravenous
Pyramid Celestial
#19 - 2014-08-27 11:00:01 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Here you go with the naughty words taken out;

The rewards are greater when you take more risk

More team-mates means more risk, you saavy?

If you dont want to play with others, theres plenty of single player space games out there.

I highly recommend any of the X series except Rebirth.

Ramona's Log SuppleMental: Why should those of us who like flying in attack wings in PvE and PvP bow to what loners want?



When people could solo sites by orbiting beacons in frigs and getting pay days what risk was there really? More risk means more reward is just CCP catch phrase that actually isn't even true. There are all sorts of activities you can do in this game that are zero to little risk that have high pay outs.

I don't want to play other games, I like EVE I just don't want to be told non stop that I need to play with others, or have changes put in place that force me to have to. Essentially CCP is being you mom telling you to go play with the other kids when the other kids have behavioral issue like being compulsive liars, kleptomaniacs, schizophrenia and bipolar disorder. Sure they are people too just doesn't mean I have or want to be their friends.
shimiku
Zircron Industries
#20 - 2014-08-27 11:01:28 UTC
i dont know if MMO is the key word here
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