Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Well if you just make RR also being affected by resistances then this is very easy to fix , just by removing resistances.
It will impact all fleets in grate manner without affecting repair of structures.

Lets assume that we can repair 1000 hp per cycle , but ship have 90% maximum against one type of damage then only 100hp will be repaired by cycle.

We will have finally split doctrines - hey we need ALL types of battleships in a fleet !

They couldn't possibly balance it such that more modules worked while repping structures now could they?

why? are structures something special that they need to attract the blob and so the small guy can't do any damage to those structures?

So if you have to rep a 10m hp (TCU) you will stay out there for near 2 hours doing it in triage with fleet to support you and get them bored to death because a single triage carrier is not a target to hotdrop.

having it in non triage it will take you 6 hours? with a fleet there waiting.
Yes this game is fun.

Nerf the RR, shutdown the API servers.

The downside of that is that it massively nerfs small fleets as well and changes compeltely the balance of ships (makign resistance bonus far far weaker )

I still prefer to simply reduce massively the range of RR. Logistics should need to MOVE to the shipt hey want to repair, not magically touch them 70 km away. Simply REMOVE the PG bonsu to fit large repairers/transfers, Make them work with medium ones and HALVE the range bonus.. in fact make it so that they barely can be used to repair a pos shield and no inch further.

Large repairers and transfers then can be BUFFED, like double the range and a bit less cap usage (now that logis would not be able to use them) That would create variation in possibilities. Also that would add more need of skill on the logi pilots.


With a small bonus is much easier to overhelm logistics. And this will not affect much smaller fleets.

Your argument with triage is all wrong so i have to pose the question have you ever flown a carrier and deployed into triage on tranquility before? Or are you talking about something you have only seen / read about?

The entire point of triage is a shift in energy polarity fields used to augment repair systems and logistic capability's so not only do you rep a lot more both for other people and for yourself but you lose the ability to do anything else including use drones which means when you go into triage more than 1000 DPS has just been nuked from the field for 5 minutes or more. In exchange a ship is now much harder to kill because it is receiving 2000+ Armor HP every 3 seconds ( thats 1 rep usually )

Now what most people do is cry "we cant kill the T3 or whatever thats being repped by an archon, CCP Help me" but there are options available to you that for some reason people don't think to exploit. ( i don't mean bannable exploit )

You could swap primary to the carrier itself and burn it down, sure it reps 20,000 Armor per every 12 seconds or so but it costs quite a bit of cap to do that and its easy if you can apply enough DPS to keep that rep cycling and applying cap pressure through nuets to cap the carrier out and make the T3 or whatever vulnerable once more. Also not in triage a carrier CANNOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES recieve remote assistance, if its going down at half triage cycle, its going down before anyone can help it.

You could bump the carrier or the subcap out of repair range, its easier than most people think just nobody thinks to do it for some reason. Conversely with T2 logi ships that rep at 70+ Km's Like theyre supposed to you can damp these ships and bring them into brawling range, 70km reps does you no good with a 30km targeting range. and at 30k your practically in nuet range which opens up doors on its own.

Dreads also exist for a reason, even triage carriers have issues keeping up with an 18K DPS moros or an alpha nag especially since nobody can help them in triage so they have to tank it all by themselves. In pantheon / slowcat setups they can catch reps but you can also drop an alpha dread fleet ( usually if your going against a large pantheon setup you have dreads or supers to help you out )

another good technique is to to JAM the Logistics ships ( not the carriers since triage says no ) even running 2 ECCM they can still be jammed by a good falcon pilot from 70+kms especially if you pile on the racial specific jams needed. no lock means no cap chain or reps which means dead ships. remember mobile depot refit is your friend, use it.
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Now that rant aside I do agree with stacking penalty for RR, if you have 400 reps on you they shouldn't all be working at maximum efficiency, perhaps a less steep stacking penalty than the current meta so that repping supers or titans under siege is still viable since you cant just rip the rug out from under supers after the recent balance to them again that brought them back to the realm of reason-ability in the first place. Plus that would mean mass dread blobs would be un-stop-able against supers since now the reps were nerfed into oblivion.

even reducing RR based on sig radius would work so that a proteus wont recieve the full power of a rack of reps from an archon making it a bit more reasonable but again it cant be too steep or you penalize people who spent a FULL YEAR OR MORE training into these ships.
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Also for the other one who said T2 logi should get stuck with medium reps, No they need something that makes them unique its like how a talos fits blaster cannons not medium guns like the other 3 BC's. you can still counter them with above mentioned techniques, it happens all the time.

hence why i also said they should either nerf that kind of rep based on sig radius or number of reps on grid, pantheon set ups ( slowcats, wrecking-balls etc ) are very difficult to kill, but 12+ alpha nags can pop them 1 at a time and there are other ways to kill them as well. Especially if you keep them bubbled in station and they cant deploy it effectively.

that end part coupled with the faster cycle time of shield reps could actually mean more shield cap fleets out and about since the rep would be that much better

you didn't get the memo?

Baltec said that this will make sov easy and no more blobs will be there so you will never be in 10% tidi so let us all rejoice!

Nerf the RR, shutdown the API servers

Calculation to know if you are on range of the boosting ship. Your ship is A booster ship is B. (Bx-Ax)^2 +(By-Ay)^2 + (Cy-Ay)^2 compare with desired distance ² . A whooping 15 cycles on a cpu... OMG SUCH A MASSIVE LOAD!!!!! Even 10 thousand ships would not represent more than 0.5% of the load of a BAD cpu.

2010 and under.

This was 2 years before you started playing.