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No difference between Meta 4 - 5 Target Painters?

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Captain Panther
Development institute
C A M E L O T
#1 - 2014-08-18 07:51:00 UTC
Hi, i've noted a while ago that Target Painter II and Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron have exactly the same parameters except the Meta and Tech levels, thus making Target Painter II a junk. It cost more CPU to fit and 4 more Gj to activate but gives the same 30% to target signature.

Am i miss something valuable? If not, it just don't make any sense! The more advanced tech is the same as the lower one. Give it 32%+ to signature radius or some other bonus :)

Thanks.

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Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
#2 - 2014-08-21 07:06:26 UTC
Many module families (especially between Meta 4 and the adjacent Tech II variants) behave as such. There is some good news actually, though.

CCP has announced recently that it will be going through modules - Tech I, Meta, Tech II, Faction, Complex, and Officer, so all of them - and doing a balancing pass on them, not unlike the ship tiericide they did before. This will likely not be all at once, since there are so many, but it will likely remedy the numerous odd module stats like your example. You should expect to see the first set of changes to a few module families here pretty soon, maybe even in Hyperion (fingers crossed).

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Captain Panther
Development institute
C A M E L O T
#3 - 2014-08-21 07:11:31 UTC
Thanks for info, glad to hear that :)

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Dangeresque Too
Pistols for Pandas
#4 - 2014-08-26 14:20:34 UTC
Yeah, there was a thread around here somewhere of all the completely useless T2 modules compared to the meta variants (more expensive, higher fittings, same or worse stats). Now that list didn't include a lot of the T2 modules that are effectively useless because some of them were a little cheaper than the actually better meta variant.

Though the biggest annoyance with the painters you mention here is why does the name have to be so ridiculously long and not make any sense? Interesting enough, each variant adds another word onto the name, so if you ever have doubt with variant painter you are looking at, just count the words... I mean seriously what the crap does Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron even mean?
Adrie Atticus
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#5 - 2014-08-26 17:39:31 UTC
Dangeresque Too wrote:
Yeah, there was a thread around here somewhere of all the completely useless T2 modules compared to the meta variants (more expensive, higher fittings, same or worse stats). Now that list didn't include a lot of the T2 modules that are effectively useless because some of them were a little cheaper than the actually better meta variant.

Though the biggest annoyance with the painters you mention here is why does the name have to be so ridiculously long and not make any sense? Interesting enough, each variant adds another word onto the name, so if you ever have doubt with variant painter you are looking at, just count the words... I mean seriously what the crap does Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron even mean?


Target Painter I
PWN
PWND
PWNT
PWNAGE
Target Painter II
Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#6 - 2014-08-26 18:55:30 UTC