Player Features and Ideas Discussion

This could actually solve the issue and the issue with null sec stations where sov is lost and plex stuck.

This thread is so full of idiots. Removing PLEX from the game won't combat RMT, it will encourage it. Preventing RMT was the reason PLEX was introduced in the first place.

Do you all drink antifreeze, or what? PLEX is fine, you're all just bad at EVE. Go get scammed again.

You can use Plex located at any station in the universe via assets.
You know about this?

I didnt, and apparently the guy who made the comment about sov and contract didnt eighter.

Then i deffently stand by my OP. Eighter remove plex from public contracts or redo the UI so even tiret people see the YOU PAY part propper.

My concern are still the lose of players who fall for the scam, and not being able to log into the game next day.

I dont mind scams, I dont mind ganks, Corp theifes what ever, but scams which can affect if a player not being able to play anymore i do mind.

Then people can brag about how much money they have to pay for their subs, but for alot of people EVE online is the community where they can relax their brain from RL for a few hours and have fun with their friends. Getting scammed being stupid or not, it still affect some people in RL, as some are getting cut of being able to play, relax and have fun with their friends.

The finance crises in the US 2010 was a bloody good example where we as an alliance helpped quite a few people with plex so they could conteniue play, due the ammount loosing their jobs ect.

EVE is full of ME people, where everything around them is all about ME, those people wont see the effect a scam like this could have in RL not a pixel game, nore would they relize or care if a member of their team is missing.

I care

Dont know where the RMT part comes in nore have to do with the topic. But for those who cannot afford to pay subs and have someone else by a plex which they with work can buy in game, will in the end have a RL money value for that person, and he can save RL money.

Iv been playing online games since 1996, and i assure you, its not one in a million, just in the 581 members we have within alliance i can name quite a few, and know quite a few who have stopped playing due to the high plex prises atm.

Ya we are problally a bunch of loosers then and the 10 - 12 people are problally the only ones in EVE.

The time of people that can't afford to pay for EVE (most expensive option : $0.5 a day) would be better spent trying to improve their RL economic conditions. Scammers are doing these people a favor.

No for several reasons:

1.) I don't believe PLEX should be some sacred cow that can't be used for scamming. Scamming is an important part of this game, and always has been.

2.) I have no sympathy for people that can't pay for their accounts. It is nice they can grind isk and swap it with some other person for Game time, but they aren't entitled to game time just because they grind. It is a balance, and if the going rate of plexes is too high for people to comfortably grind in a month, that means we have too many people trying to fund their accounts in that manner.

If other players are offended by my being blunt about the matter, it's not my problem.

The only way to think this thread is a good idea is to be suffering the effects of having consumed antifreeze, to be one of those in-denial players who should be in a themepark right now or to be a complete idiot.

Or all three.

I agree with your statement, PLEX should be only on the market or private contract only.
That would give stability to that market.

On that point I don't understand CCP.

Plex is a huge rent for them, it should not be subjet to scam.

It's not an ordinary item, it's made from real money.



Another idea, on the market PLEX should be free of tax.
As I said, its not an ordinary Items.

There are another few thoughts on this from my side...

1. If a person plays eve a whole month and is barely able to grind that plex he must literally be doing nothing but that and extends his subscription for nothing but next months PLEX grind. Is that really fun (and realistic)? Besides, as soon as you can fly L4 missions or incursions it really is not a matter of magic, even if PLEX price was at 1b. Rather a matter of 2 days a month. If people are playing this game for longer than 3 months and are unable to accomplish that, i feel sorry for them, but they probably are playing the wrong game for them.

2.
Yeah, but those people exist, and they exist in big amounts. While at the same time i believe that said persons are not the persons we are talking about but rather people who refuse to pay real money because they "don't have to so don't want to".

3. if you want to attach real money value to PLEX, every other ingame item is real-money too because by selling it, it can be converted to PLEX. That is the one major reason why you must not differentiate between PLEX and other ingame items with respect to their real money value!

All this is still no reason to ban public PLEX contracts at all. There is no problem. The only problem with those contracts is greed and the lack of reading comprehension. I can post a picture for you if you want, but i think CCP cant make it any more obvious that it currently is.

Everything you PAY is RED and has a big bright red headline "YOU PAY" on top of it. Everything you GET is GREEN and has a big bright green headline "YOU GET" on top of it. If you are unable to tell them apart and accept a scam contract, the problem is not within the game, the problem is yourself.