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Giving Advice To Noobs
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Mythrandier
Solace Corp
#21 - 2014-08-26 11:21:16 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
EVE isn't a job. Fun/hour > isk/hour.


This.

It amazes me that even 5+ year vets still fail to grasp this point.

"In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move." -  D. Adams.
Antaria Wildsun
Massive Impact
#22 - 2014-08-26 11:23:37 UTC
DON'T feel the need to join another player corp, consider starting your own if so inclined. Some people really prefer to play on their own and socialize through other means.

On another corp note, do not start your own corp with the intent of inviting others, or join a corp run by other new people.
Lady Spank
Get Out Nasty Face
#23 - 2014-08-26 11:32:56 UTC
Losing ships isn't a bad thing. Worrying about losing ships so that you never take a risk is.

(ಠ_ృ) ~ It Takes a Million Years to Become Diamonds So Lets Just Burn Like Coal Until the Sky's Black ~ (ಠ_ృ)
Oriella Trikassi
Trikassi Enterprises
#24 - 2014-08-26 11:38:17 UTC
As in Real Life, anyone who tells you "I enjoy doing XXXX, therefore you will ONLY have fun if you do XXXX as well" is wrong.

EVE is a sandbox, not a linear game. Yes, there are goals you can set for yourself:

  • Be a Titan pilot.
  • Have a Billion ISK in your wallet.
  • Blow up 100 ships.
  • Be in the team that wins a Tournament
  • Destroy a big Corp from the inside

but these are your goals. If you don't enjoy mining or mission running or manufacturing or PvP then don't do them!
Lord Icicles
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
#25 - 2014-08-26 11:44:06 UTC
Ottersmacker wrote:
you don't need your character to have 'the necessary skills maxed' before you can have fun (despite some snobs telling you otherwise)

eve is a game of diminishing returns, especially when it comes to the size and cost of .. stuff


This is something I need to quote.

I have seen people who run help channels telling new players that you should wait until your skills are maxed. To quote one perticular case.

"You should setup a Skillplan for 6 month and then go and play something else while you train the skills". (That advise was given out be the person who created the help channel)

If you somehow get invited into a private help channel where you are given advice like that: Just close it and never come back, those people have absolutly no clue what they are talking about.

That being said, never let people discourage you to try out things in Eve.

Other than that:

- EvE is not a single player game.

- Do not be afraid of getting blown up in PvP. Learn from your mistakes and you will slowly get better and will definetly at some point become successfull.

- Do not grind ISK all day just for the sake of being able to plex your accounts - use your ISK to go out and have some fun
-> If you make enough ISK to be able to afford plex and still have enough left over to be able to grab some ships and have fun, it is fine to plex your accounts, but playing Eve just to be able to keep your accounts active is a pointless activity which you will get bored of after a few month and you will end up leaving Eve without ever having seen the fun aspects of the game.

- Do not start your own corporation until you are familiar with the game mechanics and when you have no idea what it means to run a corporation in Eve
-> Corporations in Eve are totally different from guilds (shared chatrooms) in other games and to be successfull with a corporation it means you will have to invest a lot of time, especially in the early stages.
Nymivya
Violent Dreams
#26 - 2014-08-26 11:45:10 UTC
Do what you find fun, not what's "most effective." There'll be plenty of time for that later on.

A fair few newbies seem to be so focused on PLEXing their account from trial to the Titan they inevitably want that they flame out and leave EVE fairly soon. It's a shame. I took a long break from EVE when I had the same mentality. Now I just do what I want to do in the game without worrying about PLEX, and it's much more fun. I know that may seem obvious, but the PLEX goal can blind many newbies to it.

Note that I'm not saying you can't PLEX from trial with very limited skills, you can. It's just really not a good goal to have as a newbie, I think.
Lord Amaterasu
Aves Autem Obumbratio
#27 - 2014-08-26 11:57:07 UTC
He/she isn't your friend.

Long live the Empress Catiz of Amarr!!
Grim Hood
Kingsparrow Wormhole Division
Birds of Prey.
#28 - 2014-08-26 12:21:06 UTC
You can be successful at pvp with low SP. I started getting kills when I was about 10 days old. Frigate pvp has a low skill point ceiling. After a few weeks of training you will have all the necessary skills for frig pvp and you can be just as bad ass as a pilot with 100 million sp.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#29 - 2014-08-26 12:22:49 UTC
If you hear someone say “don't do X until you have Y”, give them two swift kicks to the groin. It's a far kinder treatment than they deserve, but sometimes you just have to be generous towards the less gifted.
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#30 - 2014-08-26 12:30:57 UTC
Jacob Holland
Weyland-Vulcan Industries
#31 - 2014-08-26 12:32:19 UTC
Don't try to "get good" before working towards your preferred playstyle.

Sitting in highsec and running missions constantly while you train the skills you think you need for PvP will only kill the game for you.
You don't see the miners sitting in station while they skill for their Hulk, they're out there learning their roids in a Venture - get out there and learn...
Ned Thomas
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#32 - 2014-08-26 12:37:10 UTC
D-scan. Learn it, love it, live it.
isk4trade
Cogitation Mining and Industrial Trading
#33 - 2014-08-26 12:38:23 UTC  |  Edited by: isk4trade
--- ^^^^ THAT TOO!

me

P.S. OK that was about the miners spiel ... just before the one above. The Dscan one slipped in there but is a valuable piece of advice too !

me
WASPY69
Xerum.
#34 - 2014-08-26 12:38:35 UTC
No not believing in yourself!

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Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
Goonswarm Federation
#35 - 2014-08-26 12:41:53 UTC
Fly dangerous.

TunDraGon is recruiting! "Also, your boobs [:o] "   CCP Eterne, 2012 "When in doubt...make a diȼk joke." Robin Williams - RIP
RomeStar
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#36 - 2014-08-26 13:16:45 UTC
Dscan is your friend Learn to use it and then keep using it and use it some more I think your getting the point....

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Kitty Bear
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#37 - 2014-08-26 13:17:26 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
EVE isn't a job. Fun/hour > isk/hour.


definitely this
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Doomheim
#38 - 2014-08-26 15:28:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
They should read this (particularly the bottom bit). They should also read this. Perhaps also, this.

They are now ready to EvE, and evolve in game, without tear or complaint.

Riiiiight.....

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Would you like to know more?
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#39 - 2014-08-26 15:43:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
They can trust their (non NPC) corpmates but not with their stuff, pod or further than optimal range.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

New Player FAQ

Feyd's Survival Pack
Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
The Conference
#40 - 2014-08-26 16:46:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Ima Wreckyou
spaceships are consumables, so safety to red and pull that trigger!

Also:
Yes, it probably is a girl!

Evil RatKid